First Cycle. Need help

[marseea1]

Whats up guys. im brand new to this site. Im 22 5'7 165 and about 12% body fat. I want to put on lean muscle mass i have been working out for years and am also an exercise science major. I am preparing my first cycle and had a few questions for you. I will be doing Testosterone and Deca durabolin. My friend who does this only uses 250mg of test and 200mg of deca weekly. I ahve been reading about it looks like i should be doing a little more since im looking to muscle up. any suggestions on what doasges i should do? also will nolvadex be a good anti estrogen to run with the test and deca? thanks for all your help guys

[Matt]

If it were me and if it were my 1st cycle, i would drop the deca and run test e/c at 500mg each week..

[ucantridethis01]

That is the exact cycle I did my first and only time and I went from 152 to 168 in 5 weeks. 6 weeks later I am still at the same weight and have not lost any gains. I didn't do any PCT on the last one and made it through ok. These guys really stress a good PCT when coming off though. Good luck!

[D7M]

I agree with Matt on this one.

I actually ran test/deca my first cycle, too, but that's b/c I didn't really know what I was doing. If I could do it over, I would've done a test only.

And, yes, we stress PCT here, b/c its the healthy and safe way. I know, sounds crazy, right.

[marseea1]

Thanks for the quick responses guys. The only test i can get a hold of is test p. Why should i drop the deca, is it just to much juice for a first cycle?

[Matt]

If you run two steroids and suffer bad sides how will you know what is causing those sides? Is it the deca? or the test?

[D7M]

here are 5 more reasons:

http://forums.steroid.com/showpost.p...59&postcount=5

[FireGuy]

Many people can make great gains in the 250-300 per week range. I would start there instead of jumping all the way to 500.

[marseea1]

thanks for all your help guys, that makes alot of sense. So I will stay in that 250-350 range weekly. Since i am using test p (with such a low half life) will i be ok with two injections a week?

[D7M]

prop should be shot every day, or at least EOD to maintain stable blood levels

[D7M]

if you're not comfortable sticking yourself everyday, you may consider switching to a longer ester test.

[marseea1]

I will take your advise. Im just gonna do the Test p. I will just suck it up and inject EOD. How long should my cycle run if i keep it around 300mg a week

[hellapimpin]

prop..eod atleast..try shooting 100 eod..if your gonna be using 300ish a week..which shouldnt be to bad at your first cycle

if your planning on keeping the deca in..which you prolly will..its not normally ran with prop i believe but you can do it.. id up your dosage of prop to about 400ish and deca at about 300ish a week.. shoot the deca only once a week. you could take same day as other shot..but no need to spread out the dosage because at 1shot a week it will be consistent enough in your system...umm def get Nolva, and clomid for post cycle..hcg would be awsome too ..to run during cycle if your able to get it..

[marseea1]

Will i be able to get by With just the Nolva? The others are not attainable for me.

[MercyDog]

Will i be able to get by With just the Nolva? The others are not attainable for me.

on that low of a cycle have nolva and clomid only after cycle, unless you have problems.

[hellapimpin]

Even at that low dose of a cycle..which isnt extreme low...you will be shutdown most likely ..keep nolva on hand for sure...some only start using when they have symptoms of gyno..but i used to use throughout ..umm you will need clomid..and what do you mean you can't get that"???!! Ahem..look at homepage ads buddy