Switching to ed shots tren/prop!

[te4vass]

Im on week 3 of my prop/tren cycle. The first two weeks I ran 75 eod tren and 100 eod prop. The sides were harsh. I finally overcame them but still felt crappy the day after injection. so I thought why not shoot ed. So now im shooting .60 tren ed and .70 prop ed. My problem is the sides are back and they are worse then before. Is this just because im taking more tren and prop or not enuff prop to help with the tren? Should I up the prop to 100 ed? I haven't really seen any gains besides bench. Should I tough it out or drop the tren and continue with just prop. I am contimplating dropping the tren very soon. The sides are unbearable. Especially with my line of work.

Any suggestions or help please!

[mike954]

Im on week 3 of my prop/tren cycle. The first two weeks I ran 75 eod tren and 100 eod prop. The sides were harsh. I finally overcame them but still felt crappy the day after injection. so I thought why not shoot ed. So now im shooting .60 tren ed and .70 prop ed. My problem is the sides are back and they are worse then before. Is this just because im taking more tren and prop or not enuff prop to help with the tren? Should I up the prop to 100 ed? I haven't really seen any gains besides bench. Should I tough it out or drop the tren and continue with just prop. I am contimplating dropping the tren very soon. The sides are unbearable. Especially with my line of work.

Any suggestions or help please!

just wondering what are your sides?

[te4vass]

Well im getting the worst migraine headaches i have ever had. Accompanied with dizzy spells and body aches. The kind of body aches that you get right before the flu. No night sweats, maybe a tad insomnia and a little aggression. Well i dont know if id call it aggression, more like mood swings The body aches and headaches are what worry me.

[Sherman01]

Well im getting the worst migraine headaches i have ever had. Accompanied with dizzy spells and body aches. The kind of body aches that you get right before the flu. No night sweats, maybe a tad insomnia and a little aggression. Well i dont know if id call it aggression, more like mood swings The body aches and headaches are what worry me.

Body aches are just ones of the sides some people get. With Tren I get slight insomnia, BAD irritability, and slight overall body ache. None of them affect my workouts though and they are all lessened once I started to take Pramipexole. Ans even with the sides, Tren is still by far my most favorite steroid.

[te4vass]

thanks for the replies. I raised the tren and lowered the test and I feel pretty good today. I still have some body aches and sore as hell from previous workout but feeling better. I have some ibeprofun 800 for the headaches if I get another one.
I remember on my teste and npp cycle I could hit each body part twice a week and never be sore. On this cycle im extra sore after a workout. very strange stuff. I am going to stick with it until the sides get so bad I have to stop.

[Sherman01]

Are you taking anything for prolactin? Caber, bromo, prami? They will helps with some of the sides for sure for you.

[lord henry]

Im on week 3 of my prop/tren cycle. The first two weeks I ran 75 eod tren and 100 eod prop. The sides were harsh. I finally overcame them but still felt crappy the day after injection. so I thought why not shoot ed. So now im shooting .60 tren ed and .70 prop ed. My problem is the sides are back and they are worse then before. Is this just because im taking more tren and prop or not enuff prop to help with the tren? Should I up the prop to 100 ed? I haven't really seen any gains besides bench. Should I tough it out or drop the tren and continue with just prop. I am contimplating dropping the tren very soon. The sides are unbearable. Especially with my line of work.

Any suggestions or help please!

if the sides are becomeing to harsh from the tren and its effecting you work and genral life syle then i would drop the tren and carry on with the prop at 100mgs every day ,you can even add winny or get some masteron prop or even npp (make your mind up fast) too add to your cycle .

3 weeks in on prop and tren i would of thought it would be in ull effect by now

[te4vass]

Yah I have to agree. I thought the tren would be kicking in already and the sides would be gone. I know the gear is legit so I dunno. I think im gonna drop the tren and buy some npp. My last cycle was npp and test and had great results with none of these sides. Although I did test-e last time also. Not prop. Im gonna be pissed if I drop the tren and still have the sides due to the prop. How likely would that be?

[lord henry]

Yah I have to agree. I thought the tren would be kicking in already and the sides would be gone. I know the gear is legit so I dunno. I think im gonna drop the tren and buy some npp. My last cycle was npp and test and had great results with none of these sides. Although I did test-e last time also. Not prop. Im gonna be pissed if I drop the tren and still have the sides due to the prop. How likely would that be?

unlikely man ,as you have used test in the past without these sides you have now-correct?

rememer test is test its just the ester that makes test e -prop diff ,so i you have used test e with npp in the past and had non of the sides its very unlikely that its the prop.

TEST IS TEST .

hope this helps and makes it clear to you that tren is the likely culprut here.

[te4vass]

unlikely man ,as you have used test in the past without these sides you have now-correct?

rememer test is test its just the ester that makes test e -prop diff ,so i you have used test e with npp in the past and had non of the sides its very unlikely that its the prop.

TEST IS TEST .

hope this helps and makes it clear to you that tren is the likely culprut here.

Well I have never had test flu on test-e. I heard it was far easier to aqquire test flu on prop. Which it seems like what i have. Body aches, headaches, dizzyness. It seems like the sides of tren has not hit me as hard yet. A little aggression a little insomnia and no night sweats. Maybe this dropping test dosage lower then the tren will help out. Gonna give that a try. Will keep you guys posted. Thanks

[hankdiesel]

Those sides sound pretty harsh. I've ran higher doses of tren and never had any of that. Night sweats, weird dreams, and a little aggression, but that's about it. I would drop the prop to 50mg ed and take 75mg ed of the tren. I always run the test dose lower and so do many others. Most people will agree the sides are less intense this way.

[te4vass]

Thanks for the replies. I guess I will try dropping the test to 50 and upping the tren to 75. I have heard of running the test dose lower but erred on the side of the more opinions of running test higher. If it dont clear up in 4 or 5 days im gonna have to drop it and ill order me sum npp.

Thanks

[lord henry]

test flu 3 weeks into cycle off prop is unlikey ,man you get test flue in the 1st week with sust and it only has a min of short ester in it.

hope it works out for you .

[boxer1]

test flu 3 weeks into cycle off prop is unlikey ,man you get test flue in the 1st week with sust and it only has a min of short ester in it.

hope it works out for you .

not necessarally, i've had test flu midway through cycle before. To the thread starter: what your discribing is poss test flu, i've ran tren ace and even at high doses i've never had the sides you are discribing. Sides from tren are usually night sweats, insomnia, irritability, aggression (to the point when you know its wrong), my advice would be to ride it out, if it is he flu then it will subside within 5 days max, good luck

[redz]

You might want to try running some caber or bromo to counter the Tren sides, I ran it through my entire Tren cycle last tiem and had barely any negative sides.

[BIG_TRUCK]

Fina flu!

[Braveheart04]

I have had body aches on Test E. Usually its when I first start, it goes away in a day or two. If its a continuing thing, I would drop the compound causing it.

[nasty nate]

hey bud I'm having same problem except I'm on sust 300 and tren I didn't start having prob till I started ed on tren I started eod and didn't have this so now I'm going back to that and and got me a couple good nights of sleep and feel so much better

[te4vass]

Just an update. I have been doing ed shots and have stopped the no vapor. Everything is fine. the sides r gone and the gains are slowly coming. I am up to .70 tren ed and .80 prop ed. Im not feeling the strength that I felt on npp but gaining some nice lean mass. Thanks for the input guys.