Iso-Test???? anyone heard of or used???

**slic2121** · 02-04-2009, 11:41 AM

I have been fighting Mixed Martial Arts for the last 2 years and just this past summer i started my first cycle..My dumbass listened to a buddy and took tren acetate and anavar ...after that i switched to test enanth and equipoise wich i like alot...
I have a fight April 10th and im weighing 200...(was 230) on tren as i couldnt stop eating lol) and i would liek to make 185..but most likely will take the 205 fight. the enanth and EQ trimmed me down and i kept my strength...now i decided to try the Iso test (100mg/eod) that my supplier has been raving about, along with about 200mg a week of tren and approx 500 mgs of EQ.....
Does anyone know if the Iso test will make me hold water??? and has enyone even heard of it lol? cuz i cant find anything on the web about it..
i would appreciate your help.. BTW no drug testing in ammy fighting...and very very rare amongst pros..
Thank you

**MMArmour** · 02-04-2009, 12:36 PM

Probably is refering to a specific ester test typically found in Sustanon .

Testosterone Isocaproate??

Just go with enth bro. You have alot of confused steroid info. Test and EQ could make you big or could make you lean. Its all diet dependant. Tren is reputably the most powerful AAS around and you definetly ****ed up by running it without at least a trt dose of test. You need to do some research bro. If you were going to run the tren/eq/test cycle id set it up like this tho:

Test (this is up for debate) You can run it high and add the power of test (and the sides as well) or run it low and let Tren do the work. Which it will. But definetly run test with it.
1-13 wk Test @ 500mg/wk - 250mg/e3.5d (you could also run it) 200mg/wk to fight 19nor sides.
1-10 wk Tren @ 350mg/wk - 50 mg/ed
1-12 wk EQ @ 500mg/wk - 250mg/e3.5d (in the same barrel with the test)

Did you experience progestin sides from the tren previously (even tho u ran a low dose)?? If so, look into caber for this cycle. Go do some research bro. Before you **** yourself up.

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Just re read your post. You wanna drop to 185?? Then wtf are you wanting to use AAS for?? Dude...diet. And train. And train somemore. Crank the heat up when you go train MMA. Wtf. sometimes man. sometimes.

If you can make it to 200lbs then cut to 185lbs. Dont completely come down all the way to 185.

Thats it..

Whats your stats bro?

age
height
weight
training exp
bf%?

**slic2121** · 02-04-2009, 02:46 PM

well first of all, i appreciate your condescending but informitive response..and no its Test undecanoate..and yes it does have a longer ester than enanth..
I know how to train and i know how to diet...my question was directed in no way towards dietary or what your ideal dosages would be..but thanks...The fact of the matter is i ADMITTED that i was a dumbass by taking tren only as my first cycle, so thanks for elaborating and highlighting my ignorance as a nOObie. Another fact is that i know how my body has reacted to these different hormones and ive now found a combo that is effecting me EXACTLY the way i want it to...ive cut from 230 to 200 with no strength loss and still have fat deposits to reduce (approx 10lbs) and at least 5lbs of (healthy) water weight to remove..
I was asking if anyone had heard of it or had experience with it, and if so how would they recommend using it, because im subing it for the enanth and prop that ive been taking in my recent cycle

Im 6'1
200
28years old
weight training 18 years
Brazillian Jiu Jitsu 4 years
MMA 2.5 years..

**chuckt12345** · 02-04-2009, 02:49 PM

and no its Test undecanoate..and yes it does have a longer ester than enanth..

wrong

**MMArmour** · 02-04-2009, 02:50 PM

if you knew it was undecanoate then wtf did you post a thread for? U dont need aas to cut weight and keep strength. but have it your way

**chuckt12345** · 02-04-2009, 02:53 PM

if its a injectable undecanate which im assuming is almost like suspension your gonna have to shoot it alot

**BIG_TRUCK** · 02-04-2009, 02:54 PM

Originally Posted by slic2121

well first of all, i appreciate your condescending but informitive response..and no its Test undecanoate..and yes it does have a longer ester than enanth..
I know how to train and i know how to diet...my question was directed in no way towards dietary or what your ideal dosages would be..but thanks...The fact of the matter is i ADMITTED that i was a dumbass by taking tren only as my first cycle, so thanks for elaborating and highlighting my ignorance as a nOObie. Another fact is that i know how my body has reacted to these different hormones and ive now found a combo that is effecting me EXACTLY the way i want it to...ive cut from 230 to 200 with no strength loss and still have fat deposits to reduce (approx 10lbs) and at least 5lbs of (healthy) water weight to remove..
I was asking if anyone had heard of it or had experience with it, and if so how would they recommend using it, because im subing it for the enanth and prop that ive been taking in my recent cycle

Im 6'1
200
28years old
weight training 18 years
Brazillian Jiu Jitsu 4 years
MMA 2.5 years..

Bro, don't mind MMA guy, he is rude! He's mad cuz he's as big as my girlfriend.

Welcome to the forum, many here will assist you.

**MMArmour** · 02-04-2009, 02:56 PM

I dont have the goals that you have. To be one 300lbs blimp piece of shit with gyno handing out bad advice to anyone who is too new to know better. Keep that in mind.

**JiGGaMaN** · 02-04-2009, 02:59 PM

Originally Posted by chuckt12345

if its a injectable undecanate which im assuming is almost like suspension your gonna have to shoot it alot

please do not post a response if you dont know what you are talking about. in fact, undecanoate is the longest ester of test available on the market... used mostly for HRT under brand name Nebido. i wonder why you would call test undecanoate Iso-test when theres test isocaproate lol. either way, thats beside the point.

you are looking at running an ester that will take 6-7 weeks to kick in. i think it might be a bad choice unless you are on HRT. maybe not, depends what you wanna do.

**chuckt12345** · 02-04-2009, 03:01 PM

(Testosterone + Undecanoate ester)
[androsta-4-en-3-one,17b-ol]
Molecular weight of base: 288.429
Molecular weight of ester: 186.2936
Formula: C19 H28 O2
Melting Point: 155
Manufacturer: Organon
Effective dose: 600mgs
Active Life: less than 8-12 hours
Detection Time: 4-5 weeks
Anabolic /Androgenic Ratio (Range): 100:100

HUH ?????????????????????

**Big** · 02-04-2009, 03:03 PM

aren't we talking about andriol here? wouldn't we need more than "Undecanoate" to know for sure what we're discussing? could be andriol, could be Nebido...

**chuckt12345** · 02-04-2009, 03:04 PM

yea im confused, because nebido does say that its a undecanoate.

unless they are spelled very close

**MMArmour** · 02-04-2009, 03:07 PM

i always though undecanoate was a very long ester as well. But then chuck posted the stats for the ester. Idk! haha

**JiGGaMaN** · 02-04-2009, 03:14 PM

Originally Posted by Big

aren't we talking about andriol here? wouldn't we need more than "Undecanoate" to know for sure what we're discussing? could be andriol, could be Nebido...

100mg of andriol eod?? i thought they came in 40mg caps? im suspicious because the dosing protocol doesnt make sense for either. oddly enough, its a dosing protocol more closely related to test isocaproate.

**Big** · 02-04-2009, 03:18 PM

Originally Posted by JiGGaMaN

100mg of andriol eod?? i thought they came in 40mg caps? im suspicious because the dosing protocol doesnt make sense for either. oddly enough, its a dosing protocol more closely related to test isocaproate.

I was playing devil's advocate, I just don't think the OP has undecanoate. I would think that the eod schedule would make it unlikely that it's Nebido, not to mention the cost and availability of Nebido.

**chuckt12345** · 02-04-2009, 03:20 PM

im starting to think the profile up there is wrong. Just read the nebido and andriol websites and they both have same esters and say "long acting fatty chain" in the write ups. Unless it has somethhing to do with digestion breaking it up as opposed to injection

**chuckt12345** · 02-04-2009, 03:22 PM

im thnkin ISO is a UGL name

**JiGGaMaN** · 02-04-2009, 03:33 PM

Originally Posted by chuckt12345

im starting to think the profile up there is wrong. Just read the nebido and andriol websites and they both have same esters and say "long acting fatty chain" in the write ups. Unless it has somethhing to do with digestion breaking it up as opposed to injection

andriol = oral
nebido = injectable

thats why theres a discrepancy in the duration of action.

**JiGGaMaN** · 02-04-2009, 03:33 PM

Originally Posted by Big

I was playing devil's advocate, I just don't think the OP has undecanoate. I would think that the eod schedule would make it unlikely that it's Nebido, not to mention the cost and availability of Nebido.

very good point about cost/availability. gold star for you.

**chuckt12345** · 02-04-2009, 03:40 PM

Originally Posted by JiGGaMaN

andriol = oral
nebido = injectable

thats why theres a discrepancy in the duration of action.

yea im just thnking the profile name is wrong like you said. Even the andriol capsules seem to have like a 2 week half life from how the write up reads. Anyways the OP is gone so i guess its all mute point.