noob, need help/advice on deca and dbol

[croat_ness]

im a newbie looking to run deca/dbol as a cycle. im 23 165 punds 6 feet tall athletic build looking to gain about 25 pounds.

heard a lot of bad rumours like deca dick and other stuff. i dont know how i would need to cycle either of these, whether i need oral or injectibles? and how many mg's or ml's i need to take to start. what do i need to do with them. do i need to run test and if so which one?

i dont have much advice on anabolics.

[Big]

for starters, while I move your thread to the correct section, read this:
http://forums.steroid.com/showthread.php?t=344896

[johnnybigguns]

You need to eat more bro. You definitely have to run test too

[croat_ness]

is there any specific test i should take? BIG thanks a bunch for re-directing my post!

[10nispro]

Test is Test. But for a first timer, you need to take test e or c.

But you need to get a good bulking diet first.

[MercyDog]

You easily have about 40 lbs. of muscle you could put on naturally with diet and training. If you want to get there the quickest way though and have the best results research prop and npp ed, great for quality gains if you don't mind a tiny little shot everyday that doesn't hurt at all.

[T-MOS]

You are 6' and ONLY 165 lbs

You would do much better learning how to eat to grow FIRST and get closer to your natural potential around 200 lbs. Steroids work by using food to help build. If you can't gain now, you will most likely not keep your gains from a steroid cycle because you do not know how to eat.

I would take some time and try a few bulking diets first. But that's just MHO

[legobricks]

I like how people think AAS will make them huge or even put on MUSCLE.

They are Magical.

Ok that aside, let me ask what is your diet? what do you eat on a day to day basis?

[oneshot]

oh jeez, yet another one. +1 for everything said already^^^