Want to start a cycle and looking for advice

**Baddagger** · 02-06-2009, 12:26 AM

Hey all i have been looking aroudn and i am thinking about do a cycle with
T-bol for 40mg a day for 5-6 weeks This is going to be my frist cycle and the reason i am going with this is because i knwo it is a weaker gear and i woud like to start off slow and also from what i have read this has less of a chance for liver toxic affects and also water retention. Also i like the fact of that this gear helps put on more solid lean muscle.

i am looking to go with novaldex 20mg a day for 4 weeks
but i do have a question about this i was reading that i can be taken durning a cycle to help keep the boys running stronger so they dont stop producing test while on a cycle and so they dont shrink up as bad. If this is true how much shoudl i do a day/week while on a cycle?

for my stats here we go

age- 24
weight-172
height 5' 10"

i have been weight lifting sense i was 15 i have been going really hardcore in the last 2.5- 3 years
Last year i was about 150 now im at 172ish

i did put on most of the weight last year but now i am really stuck cant get past this weight im at for a while now.

as for my diet for the most part i know it is good, i do about 3000-3500 calories a day and about 200 grams of protein.. I tried to eat every 3-4 hours. I eat 3 meals a day and 3-4 protien shakes a day (3 shake on off days and 4 shakes on training days( i normaly send 5 days a week in the gym)

So any advice woudl be very helpfull, thanks in advance.

**johnnybigguns** · 02-06-2009, 12:36 AM

If your gunna cycle you really should look into runnng test e

**Bulldog1115** · 02-06-2009, 10:39 AM

too many shakes a day ...throw in some meals like chciken steak eggs ..more of that and less shakes ....

**jamyjamjr** · 02-06-2009, 10:50 AM

http://forums.steroid.com/showthread.php?t=323516

watch the videos in the link to get a good diet going....

run test only your first cycle.. test e would be the prime choice, unless you dont mind eod or ed injections....

**murphylee** · 02-06-2009, 11:08 AM

for my first cycle I was about 180 lbs pretty sold, ran Test E alone and put on damn near thirty pounds. Used Clomid for the PCT and haven't lost my gains since...that was 3 years ago. It was twice a week injections and after the first two weeks I was able to do them on my own. Definitely don't regret it at all.

**LATS60** · 02-06-2009, 11:18 AM

If you want to do a tbol only 1st cycle, go for it. Some ppl seem to forget that thousands of 1st time users started on dbol . If your dedicated and eat, train and rest properly, do an adequate PCT then you will keep a substantial amount of your gains.
Its just the idiots who dont really train or eat properly and hit the gym when they feel like it and then stop going after their cycle that lose all their gains.
IMO a Tbol or Dbol only 1st cycle is a good introduction to steroids .

**Baddagger** · 02-06-2009, 12:05 PM

well can someone answer these questions for me about novaldex?

i am looking to go with novaldex 20mg a day for 4 weeks for pct
but i do have a question about this i was reading that it can be taken durning a cycle to help keep the boys running stronger so they dont stop producing test while on a cycle and so they dont shrink up as bad. If this is true how much shoudl i do a day/week while on a cycle?

**seriousmass** · 02-06-2009, 12:32 PM

Originally Posted by Baddagger

well can someone answer these questions for me about novaldex?

i am looking to go with novaldex 20mg a day for 4 weeks for pct
but i do have a question about this i was reading that it can be taken durning a cycle to help keep the boys running stronger so they dont stop producing test while on a cycle and so they dont shrink up as bad. NO. READ GYNO THREAD THAT I POSTED BELOW / HOW TO AVOID IT. INVEST IN AN AI. If this is true how much shoudl i do a day/week while on a cycle?

Read these:

Pheendo's PCT
http://forums.steroid.com/showthread.php?t=94626

All You Need To Know About Gyno
http://forums.steroid.com/showthread.php?t=236880

***T-MOS*** · 02-06-2009, 12:42 PM

as stated above. TOO many shakes. you need REAL food, one shake a day is plenty PWO

If you are so worried about your "boys running" then you need to listen and do more research and not just do tbol. you would be much better and happier with using a single ester Test for your first cycle.

your weight is a bit light to be starting steroids anyway, so get your food intake in order before you start