will i put on any size with just winstrol ?

**british bulldog 1** · 02-06-2009, 04:54 AM

i dont want to take any test and want to kmow if ii take winny on its own will i put on any size and how much?

i want a lean hard look not bloated and watery.

PT · 02-06-2009, 05:55 AM

winny is definatly not good for adding mass especially when used alone. if your bf is below 10% it will harden you up and you'll see strength gains but the weight gains will be little if any

**Darksyde** · 02-06-2009, 02:42 PM

most likely not.

**Matt** · 02-06-2009, 02:46 PM

Why would you not want to take test???

***T-MOS*** · 02-06-2009, 02:53 PM

Originally Posted by MAD MATT

Why would you not want to take test???

My question exactly... Why no test?? Do you know that winny will shut down your natural test production??

**Matt** · 02-06-2009, 02:58 PM

Originally Posted by T-MOS

My question exactly... Why no test?? Do you know that winny will shut down your natural test production??

Great minds think alike lol...

Or is it just that simple...

***RAGE*** · 02-06-2009, 03:04 PM

Originally Posted by MAD MATT

Great minds think alike lol...

Or is it just that simple...

I think it just that simple...but thats just me..

***T-MOS*** · 02-06-2009, 03:21 PM

yea it's simple. Too bad that so many of these kids have no reguard or respect for what they are willing to just stick in their bodies'n

They think this stuff is like Flintstone chewable vitamins. LOL

PT · 02-06-2009, 03:52 PM

actually depending on your goals winny alone isnt always a bad thing. ben johnson did it for a long time. it wont put mass on but it has its uses

**Muselz** · 02-06-2009, 04:05 PM

Winstrol will give you that hard vascular look...

**Darksyde** · 02-06-2009, 04:12 PM

.. if you already have decently sized muscles and a low bf.

**british bulldog 1** · 02-06-2009, 04:38 PM

do you recommend i take it with proviron ?
i have taken test in the past and it didnt agree with me

**The Deuce** · 02-06-2009, 04:42 PM

In essence if you have a higher BF% (16-18%) whilst cycling than WINNY i believe works at it's best.. you can maximize it's potential... honestly.. reason being that if you have a larger person with a BF % in that range than the WIN will go to work slammin' out those strength gains and force you to cut down on BF to utilize is hardening effects...

I hope that makes sense

**NewMuscle83** · 02-07-2009, 12:23 AM

Originally Posted by The Deuce

In essence if you have a higher BF% (16-18%) whilst cycling than WINNY i believe works at it's best.. you can maximize it's potential... honestly.. reason being that if you have a larger person with a BF % in that range than the WIN will go to work slammin' out those strength gains and force you to cut down on BF to utilize is hardening effects...

I hope that makes sense

so you're saying it works better for higher bf because it motivates you to lose that bf so you can actually see the results..?

Doesn't that mean that it works better for lower bf??