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Thread: How do I take the "Bread and Butter cycle?"

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    How do I take the "Bread and Butter cycle?"

    Ok guys...ive decided its time to really take bulking serious. Im wanting to take Test, Deca, and about 4 weeks of d-bol at the beginning. However, ive seen many diff ways to take it, diff types of test and crazy mlg to take it at. Also, the pct..and nolva....what should the pct look like? I dont know if i can get HCG anymore but for sure i will have nolva and clomid. Ive done 5 cycles already and the gear included deca, winstrol, equipoise, dianobal, t400...none were ever stacked except the dbol with equipoise. Im 22 yrs old...about 6'1, 185lbs. I work out roughly 4-5 days a week and have a pretty good eating routine. I want to take a safe dose of the gear but still get my $$$ worth. If anyone could help me out and give a plan and what the pct should look like id appreciate it. Also...how to use the nolva!!!

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    1-12 test enth/cyp 500mgs ew
    1-10 deca 400-500mgs ew
    1-4 d-bol 40mgs ed

    14-18 nolva 20mgs ed
    14-18 aromasin(20mgs) or armidex(1mg)

    if you did 4 previous cycles and you said none were stacked then your saying you ran a winny only cycle and a deca only cycle? what doses did you use?
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    well i took winstrol tabs towards the end of the deca...i was takin 400 mlg a week of deca and at wk 6 i started taking 50mlg of winstrol ed. and ended with that. Yeah thats the test i wanted to take was the test E. I was told to take anywhere from 400-500mlg of test a wk and only 300 mlg of deca...would the extra 100 mlg make a big diff? and the armidex...i dont think i can get any all i will have is clomid and nolva. how should i use the clomid? also..incase of flair ups during how should the nolva be takin?

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    Quote Originally Posted by YamahaRyder24 View Post
    Ok guys...ive decided its time to really take bulking serious. Im wanting to take Test, Deca, and about 4 weeks of d-bol at the beginning. However, ive seen many diff ways to take it, diff types of test and crazy mlg to take it at. Also, the pct..and nolva....what should the pct look like? I dont know if i can get HCG anymore but for sure i will have nolva and clomid. Ive done 5 cycles already and the gear included deca, winstrol, equipoise, dianobal, t400...none were ever stacked except the dbol with equipoise. Im 22 yrs old...about 6'1, 185lbs. I work out roughly 4-5 days a week and have a pretty good eating routine. I want to take a safe dose of the gear but still get my $$$ worth. If anyone could help me out and give a plan and what the pct should look like id appreciate it. Also...how to use the nolva!!!

    you say you have done 5 cycles and have a good eating routine but at 6ft1 185lbs you may be doing something wrong, before doing this cycle post up your diet and routine

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    Nolva and deca is bad. try the adex or letro.

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    i workout 1 hr doing heavy low reps 8-10. Chest twice a week, on monday flats and decline movements and triceps, tuesday shoulders, wed back and bi's, thurs incline chest movements and tri's again, and friday legs... i use to weigh 170 and i got up to 196lbs and started to lean up. I take 200 grams of protein a day, 5-6 meals a day, good fats only, pretty high calories and carbs, protein shakes before and after workouts and right before i go to sleep.

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    oh btw...about the letro...lets say i do get ahold of some...how would the pct look for that? still waiting on advice for the nolva incase of flair ups?

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