Tren Question (PLEASE HELP)

**shortyepic** · 02-08-2009, 02:36 AM

i am running a cutting cycle this summer of..

Test Prop 100mg eod week 1-12
Tren Ace 75mg eod week 4-12
Oral Winstrol 75mg ed week 5-12

my question is... should I run the tren week 1-8 or week 4-12 (research suggests i shouldnt run more than 8 weeks of tren)

PCT includes
HCG 250IU’s every 3 days week 9-12
Clomid & Nolva

**lelyano23** · 02-08-2009, 04:23 AM

yea its good idea couse u want to use prop for 12 weeks to have more results from it and u cant use tren more than 8 weeks
i like the way of ur cycle
good luck

**binder** · 02-08-2009, 07:40 AM

cycle looks good.

it depends on what you are wanting to do. i personally like to run tren at the begining (but i only run 8 week cycles now) because you will see gains pretty quick. it does lean you down a bit so if you used something else for a kickstart then ended with tren that would be nice.

what is your experience with winstrol ? It gives pretty good results so i'm not sure if i would use 75mg ED. 50 was the most i've done because it's kind of hard on the body.

i would say use the tren the first 8 weeks then the winstrol the last part. 7 weeks on that dosage of winstrol might be rough. I usually do 4 but i've done 6 and not had too bad of sides.

oh ya, tren ace works better ED.

**CFH** · 02-08-2009, 09:53 AM

run the tren every day. you can run tren longer than 8 weeks. i've gone as long as 16 on it. most of the people on here would be against it, but it's doable. run the tren in the first part of the cycle and the winni at the end. keep in mind that both tren and winni are hard on the liver, so if at all possible try not to run them together, especially if you're going tostart the winni as soon as you are done with the tren. i think 4-5 weeks on the winni would be sufficient in this cycle. no need for 7 weeks. i would also recommend using milk thistle or somehting to help eleviate your liver throughout the cycle. the basic set up you have looks good though.

something else to think about is your dosage ratios. i personally like to keep my free test a little higher than whatever else I am running with it. for example, in 2 weeks you will have shot 581mg of free test and 456.75mg of free tren which is alright. but if you change the tren to every day, i would be more comfortable lowering the tren dose or increasing the test dosage. say somthing like 150mg of prop EOD and 50mg Tren Ace daily. That would net 871.5mg of free test and 609mg of free tren in a 2 week period. just some food for thought.

CFH

**johnnybigguns** · 02-08-2009, 09:58 AM

If I were you I would definitely shoot ED tren a is such a short ester and tren sides can get bad.
What arse your stats?

**shortyepic** · 02-08-2009, 10:38 AM

Originally Posted by CFH

run the tren every day. you can run tren longer than 8 weeks. i've gone as long as 16 on it. most of the people on here would be against it, but it's doable. run the tren in the first part of the cycle and the winni at the end. keep in mind that both tren and winni are hard on the liver, so if at all possible try not to run them together, especially if you're going tostart the winni as soon as you are done with the tren. i think 4-5 weeks on the winni would be sufficient in this cycle. no need for 7 weeks. i would also recommend using milk thistle or somehting to help eleviate your liver throughout the cycle. the basic set up you have looks good though.

something else to think about is your dosage ratios. i personally like to keep my free test a little higher than whatever else I am running with it. for example, in 2 weeks you will have shot 581mg of free test and 456.75mg of free tren which is alright. but if you change the tren to every day, i would be more comfortable lowering the tren dose or increasing the test dosage. say somthing like 150mg of prop EOD and 50mg Tren Ace daily. That would net 871.5mg of free test and 609mg of free tren in a 2 week period. just some food for thought.

CFH

anyone else agree to bump up the test?

**ralph4u2c** · 02-08-2009, 12:04 PM

i would run the tren earlier in the cycle and continue with the test/winstrol to finish it all up.

you could bump up the test if needed but it all depends on your size, diet, how much gear is right for you .... you know your body better than any of us so you make that call.

**jimmyinkedup** · 02-08-2009, 12:30 PM

I like it - i think the synergy between the tren and winny is excellent and wouldnt change a thing. I do ed inj with prop and tren ....but many do just fine with eod. All in all i wouldnt change a thing.... I think it could be a great cycle and is very close to one of my favorite cycles (doasges differ) ....
Oh i do think 50ed of winny would suffice - JMO

**Mammon** · 02-08-2009, 01:07 PM

personally id run the tren 1-10.. prop 1-12

**binder** · 02-08-2009, 01:36 PM

Originally Posted by shortyepic

anyone else agree to bump up the test?

eh, you can. it depends on how it affects you. When i lowered my test dosage with a heavy dose of tren it seemed to keep me from getting that irritability and rage. When i ran heavy of both i didn't like the way i acted. I probably won't run 100mg test p ED with tren anymore. I'll probably stay with 50mg test p ED or 75mg ED.

Great thing about prop is you can adjust it to how you are reacting. Your dosage now sounds good, so use it for a bit then if you feel you can handle it up it.

**stpete** · 02-08-2009, 07:06 PM

Originally Posted by shortyepic

i am running a cutting cycle this summer of..

Test Prop 100mg eod week 1-12
Tren Ace 75mg eod week 4-12
Oral Winstrol 75mg ed week 5-12

my question is... should I run the tren week 1-8 or week 4-12 (research suggests i shouldnt run more than 8 weeks of tren)

PCT includes
HCG 250IU’s every 3 days week 9-12
Clomid & Nolva

The tren needs to be shot ed at that dosage. If you prefer eod injections, jump it up to 150mgs per.

**hankdiesel** · 02-08-2009, 08:33 PM

Originally Posted by shortyepic

anyone else agree to bump up the test?

Don't bump the test and you'll be okay with eod injections. Is this your first time running tren ? If it is that dose should be fine.

**stpete** · 02-08-2009, 10:47 PM

Originally Posted by hankdiesel

Don't bump the test and you'll be okay with eod injections. Is this your first time running tren? If it is that dose should be fine.

75mgs eod? It can be run eod for sure, but at that dosage? Not so sure about that. But to each their own.

**shortyepic** · 02-09-2009, 09:55 AM

Originally Posted by stpete

75mgs eod? It can be run eod for sure, but at that dosage? Not so sure about that. But to each their own.

should i bump up the tren ? this is my first time runnin tren

**hankdiesel** · 02-09-2009, 11:26 AM

Originally Posted by shortyepic

should i bump up the tren? this is my first time runnin tren

Imo that dose of tren is fine for a first timer. If you feel the need you can always switch to taking shots every 36 hours. Something like 75mg tren and 100mg Mon A.m/ Tues P.m Wed off/ Thurs A.m/ Fri P.m and so on. You have some room to play around with it. Start at the dose you suggested.