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    Advice and answers please.

    Ok, I started a cycle of Trenbolone Enanthate 100mg(oil based). I liked the results it had, but the side effects were terrible. Decca dick, tren cough, high body temp, loss of sleep, you name it. So I cycled into a bottle of Testosterone Enanthate 250mg about 80% of the way through my tren cycle. That helped A LOT. Got rid of the bad side effects. (strong like bull), and started increasing results. I decided to try this test booster called FinaFlex 550-XD. I did it for a couple of days, and the energy in the gym was amazing. I had some really great workouts, but the strong like bull thing kind of went away and some of my side effects started taking root again. I wasnt sure what to do, so I took the last of the bottle of tren, and took a shot of test at the same time. THings still arent fully back to normal. My workout yesterday was worthless. I had no energy even though I had taken one of the pillls. Im trying to decide. Should I just stick with the test, finish it and then go with the finaflex. Or do both? If both, whats after the test? Advice?

    so far im about half way through my cycle of test. i just took a shot. i havent taken a pill yet today though. im about to go workout. should i take a pill?

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    you should stop now, run a full pct, get bloodwork, and learn how to run a proper cycle before you start anything in the future.
    age?
    height?
    weight?
    body fat%?
    years training?
    planned pct?

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    ^^^

    stop now.

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    seriously? i shouldnt even finish the test cycle?

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    Quote Originally Posted by briantenator View Post
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    seriously? i shouldnt even finish the test cycle?
    Yes seriously STOP and start PCT

    Please tell us you know what PCT is and have it on hand already....PLEASE???

    Your entire cycle was screwed from the start. Test boosters are not gonna do much when you already shut down your HTPA from the tren .

    We NEVER suggest running a cycle without test in it for this very reason. Most compounds will shut down your natural test and if you don't add some in from the start could cause all the problems you had and more after you are done.

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    how many weeks you been doin this? how much tren and test are and were you taking

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    I have been doing this for about 2 months now.

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    no way ..... u need to no what ur doing before injecting compounnds into your body. part of me wants u to relise how much of a fool uve been, take adivice and read.. the other half is wanting you to see what damage you will do to your body by doing all this...

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    Whats going to happen when I start taking PCT?

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    Quote Originally Posted by briantenator View Post
    Whats going to happen when I start taking PCT?

    HOPEFULLY you will start to get your natural test back up and running, and avoid estrogen buildup and get your HPTA back to normal, this may take a month or longer

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    Quote Originally Posted by briantenator View Post
    I have been doing this for about 2 months now.
    two months and you ONLY weigh 195?? sounds like your diet is off as well!!

    At your height, you should be able to get to 210- 220 naturally before ever needing steroids

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    Quote Originally Posted by briantenator View Post
    I have been doing this for about 2 months now.
    you've been on gear for 2 months... but you're only "about" half way through your cycle? how long were you planning on running this till?

    Terrible idea with the test-booster. it wouldn't help at all. you wouldn't be producing natural testostrone by the time you started the booster. ridiculous..

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    K. PCT it is. Thanks. Easy on the comments though. I took advice from the wrong people obviously. Thanks for the GOOD advice.

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    Quote Originally Posted by briantenator View Post
    K. PCT it is. Thanks. Easy on the comments though. I took advice from the wrong people obviously. Thanks for the GOOD advice.
    glad you're listening.

    may i ask what you're planning on running for your PCT..? and how long you're planning on running it for?

    when was your last shot of test?

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    Well, I'm planning on running it as soon as I get it. And I bought the 500 mg, so I plan on evening that out over the course of about a month?

    My last shot of test was about an hour ago.

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    When can I start taking something again?

    I need to start back some time around march or april. Preferably march.

    Any advice on that?

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    Quote Originally Posted by briantenator View Post
    When can I start taking something again?

    I need to start back some time around march or april. Preferably march.

    Any advice on that?
    if you started pct today you would still be on pct in march.
    what's the hurry?
    I would say get bloodwork after pct, but don't be surprised if it's toward the end of summer before you are back to normal.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Big View Post
    if you started pct today you would still be on pct in march.
    what's the hurry?
    I would say get bloodwork after pct, but don't be surprised if it's toward the end of summer before you are back to normal.
    Am I going to lose all of the results I have gained over this course of time?

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    pct, diet, and training determine what gains, if any, you will keep.

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    Thought so...

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    Quote Originally Posted by briantenator View Post
    Am I going to lose all of the results I have gained over this course of time?
    Hard to tell at this point.

    I still would like to look at your typical days food intake to see why you are not gaining

    Also, I would not start your next cycle until you have had blood work done to show that all is well

    Then come here to get help before starting anything again.

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    My diet is awesome... I have that monitored by trainers at the gym. Because of my work schedule I cant workout every day. I have to take three days out of the gym at times. That is probably why I havent gained as much.

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    I never work out every day.

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    And I have gained about 6 lbs over the course of a month and a half

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    My body is as hard as a rock, my chest has never looked as good, nor anything else for that matter.

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    Do the trainers that are monitoring you know you are doing steroids ? are they the ones that gave you this cycle advice?

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    no sir

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    Quote Originally Posted by briantenator View Post
    no sir
    just checking, if you care to post your food intake,I would still like to get an idea of what it looks like. We have lots of guys here that might be able to make it better for you or even tell you that it looks good if it does

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    Quote Originally Posted by briantenator View Post
    And I have gained about 6 lbs over the course of a month and a half
    Sounds like you're not eating near enough. Do you eat 5-7 meals per day? How many calories?

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    ya 6 lbs in 6 weeks? 1lb a week is doable without AAS. Of course not forever. But definetly do able

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    Agreed - please post up your diet. Maybe we can help you out a bit..... a good diet is priceless. It's going to be the foundation of your goals.

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    6 lbs of gains may be 16lbs of muscle gain and 10 pounds of lost fat.

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    Quote Originally Posted by chuckt12345 View Post
    6 lbs of gains may be 16lbs of muscle gain and 10 pounds of lost fat.
    Or it could be 6 lbs of water lol. But you're right, that's a good point.

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    Quote Originally Posted by chuckt12345 View Post
    6 lbs of gains may be 16lbs of muscle gain and 10 pounds of lost fat.
    God damn you Chuck and your logic in opposition to my logic.

    Good point however.

    But still...

    damn you.

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    how many mg's of tren per week were you taking?

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    Quote Originally Posted by MMArmour View Post
    God damn you Chuck and your logic in opposition to my logic.

    Good point however.

    But still...

    damn you.
    lol,, i figure on tren with no test and half ass diet the dude gonna cut up a little.

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    Quote Originally Posted by chuckt12345 View Post
    lol,, i figure on tren with no test and half ass diet the dude gonna cut up a little.
    I didn't know you could get "Decca dick" from running tren ... interesting...

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