Beginners Questions.

**Stub** · 02-10-2009, 03:14 PM

Lets see, Im 29yrs old, 5'10",190lbs, been working out for 9-10yrs. Im thinking taking a cycle, Im been asking around, and a friend who uses suggests I take a cycle of Deca and Primo together for the first time... 10 week supply. Is this a good combo for me? Anything I should take instead? And what am I going to need on hand while taking?? Anyone got any advice for me please?

**seriousmass** · 02-10-2009, 03:16 PM

Originally Posted by stub

lets see, im 29yrs old, 5'10",190lbs, been working out for 9-10yrs. Im thinking taking a cycle, im been asking around, and a friend who uses suggests i take a cycle of deca and primo together for the first time... 10 week supply. Is this a good combo for me? Anything i should take instead? And what am i going to need on hand while taking?? Anyone got any advice for me please?

hahahahahahaha

**seriousmass** · 02-10-2009, 03:17 PM

http://forums.steroid.com/showthread.php?t=355742

**Stub** · 02-10-2009, 03:19 PM

Can anyone help?

**Big** · 02-10-2009, 03:20 PM

he just did, did you even read the link?

**Stub** · 02-10-2009, 03:21 PM

thanks

**MMArmour** · 02-10-2009, 03:22 PM

Haha easyyyyy easssssssssssssyyyyy! Haha okay stub heres the deal broski

We are all here to help but as you can imagine we get alot of ridiculous shit sometimes and your friend has given you very bad advice.

Deca is an excellent mass builder however it should NOT be used without testosterone . Being that deca is a 19nor compound and will hahve negative effects on your HPTA and is incredibly supressive of endogenous test levels. Thusly to avoid side effects such as deca dick (erectile dysfunction brought about by 19nors being run without testosterone) you must run test with this compound. At that same token all AAS compounds are supressive of natural test levels and test should be ran on all cycles for this reason.

For your first cycle I (and most everyone else) will recommend a Test ONLY run of either testosterone enanthate or cypionate (almost identical). YOu also need to research into PCT (VERY IMPORTANT). Also what is your body fat percentage?

**Stub** · 02-10-2009, 04:10 PM

My body fat is low, not sure on %. Thanks for all the info Ill look into Some test then... and ill make sure I get some PCT as well. Im sure you guys get tons of people and dumb Q's, I appreciate the help. Thanks.

**Stub** · 02-10-2009, 04:12 PM

And sorry it took so long to replay. I was reading that link. Thanks again.

**murphylee** · 02-10-2009, 04:13 PM

Test ONLY is definitely the way to go. You're not sure how you're going to react to anything. The first cycle I did was Test E and I had amazing results. The only down side is that I didn't know nearly as much about it then as I do now, and that's because I wasn't on these forums.

**Stub** · 02-10-2009, 04:17 PM

Any other info you can add on test? Side effects?

**AandF6969** · 02-10-2009, 04:18 PM

What are your goals?

**Stub** · 02-10-2009, 04:20 PM

My goals, put on another 20-25lbs

**AandF6969** · 02-10-2009, 04:21 PM

Originally Posted by Stub

My goals, put on another 20-25lbs

Hows your diet? Any idea on how many calories you eat every day? I'd recommend posting it up for critique as most people who don't see gains typically neglect the nutrition aspect and don't eat enough calories.

**MMArmour** · 02-10-2009, 04:23 PM

side effects? Big gains. The desire to penetrate, in a violent manner, any women that you ever considered half way attrative. Maybe some acne. Feeling like your could kick the shit out of Zeus. those are some side effects of test.

**Stub** · 02-10-2009, 04:27 PM

Calories are around, 2500-3200 I get 1.5grams of protein per lb of weight, I dont watch my crabs closely, but I eat really lean, lots of veggies, fish, chicken, beef, etc, Gets lots fibre.

**Stub** · 02-10-2009, 04:29 PM

Side effects sound great...! I guess I should start marking my territory on the fire hydrant out front.!!! LOL

**MMArmour** · 02-10-2009, 04:34 PM

Haha nah. Some other dude twice your size prolly already has! haha

**Stub** · 02-10-2009, 04:40 PM

LOL. Your prob. right. But Im about to steal his bone..!!!

**SampsonandDelilah** · 02-10-2009, 04:43 PM

Originally Posted by MMArmour

side effects? Big gains. The desire to penetrate, in a violent manner, any women that you ever considered half way attrative. Maybe some acne. Feeling like your could kick the shit out of Zeus. those are some side effects of test.

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Priceless!!