next cycle please help

[uter87]

hey all ive posted this a couple of times b4 but ive changed it and think this is more detailed and will work better

sus250 @ 500mg/w 1-10
tren 75 @ 250mg/w 2 - 10
dbol 20mg ed 1 - 3

pct
hcg 11 - 12 500iu ed ?
nolvadex 11 - 15 20/20/20/20

and ill have 30 armidex tabs on hand incase of progesterone?

[MMArmour]

1.Adex will handle estrogen. If you want an AI that can handle both look into letro. If you want one that can handle simply prolactin issues then look into caber.

2. PCT needs work.

3.Tren dosage is low

4. Dbol dosage is alittle low aswell.

Stats?

[uter87]

this will be my 3rd cycle

im 5'7, 86kg
bench 130kg
legpress 540kg
squat 170kg

[MMArmour]

ya. my advice is as i listed above

[uter87]

wat if i upted the tren to 350 and dropped the dbol ? do i really need clomid and nolva or jst nolva and use an ai during cycle if needed and if i dont need it jst use as pct? im trying to see if i can get a hold of letro cos im in aus

[MMArmour]

yes you can run the tren at 350mg/wk just fine. is it tren a? if it is the acetate ester is very short and you wont need too much of a kick start via oral AAS. Yes i would have an AI on hand, full pct including HCG , nolva, and clomid. Also something to combat prolactin issues if needed, id recommend caber. Prolactin related gyno has to have estrogen to manifest itself so if your estrogen is managed it should not be a problem however. Are you gyno prone? if not, keep the AI on an AS NEEDED basis. IF you are, id run it from the gate.

[uter87]

ok so how do i run the hcg ? ill have nolva and letro on hand, if i do need the letro ill use it during cycle and jst have nolva and hcg for pct only... if i dont use it ill use letro nolva and hcg as pct, yes it will be tren a and ill be taking 500mg of vit b6 a day as well for prolactin

[uter87]

in the pct thread on the forum it doesnt say anything about letro reducing progesterone, jst that its like armidex for lowering estrogen..
PCT and Cycle Recomendations: Estrogen, Progesterone and Cortisol control

[uter87]

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[uter87]

can i jst have caber on hand or does it have to be taken the whole cycle? will i not gain as much?? or will letrozole be fine to have on hand, and if im gyno prone, jst make sure i have caber next cycle? some1 must know here?

[MMArmour]

you can carry all these compounds on hand and i would recommend doing so. Handy to have if the need arises however i wouldnt use them until you get symptoms.

[MMArmour]

in the pct thread on the forum it doesnt say anything about letro reducing progesterone, jst that its like armidex for lowering estrogen..
PCT and Cycle Recomendations: Estrogen, Progesterone and Cortisol control

hmm.. i guess ill have to look into that again. ive read it previously. Well..disregard that info then if you cant find any thing to back it up. Get caber.

[uter87]

i was sure what u said was true as well... but yeah if i have caber do i have to use it the whole cycle to be affective? or can i jst use it if i start to get gyno sides? i know im not prone to gyno from test, but i did do a 4 week cycle of sus250 1ml a week and deca at 400mg a week and i got itchy nipples for like 3 days but it went away itself? this cycle doing jst test e at 500mg a week havent had any prob besides a bit of acne witch i got under control and occasionally i get bloated but yeah... need help hey guys info please!

[LATS60]

hey all ive posted this a couple of times b4 but ive changed it and think this is more detailed and will work better

sus250 @ 500mg/w 1-10
tren 75 @ 250mg/w 2 - 10
dbol 20mg ed 1 - 3

pct
hcg 11 - 12 500iu ed ?
nolvadex 11 - 15 20/20/20/20

and ill have 30 armidex tabs on hand incase of progesterone?

Damn complicated thread for a simple cycle and PCT.
Do your cycle, get some clomid to add to your PCT and keep adex on hand for any gyno issues that may arise. Oh and PCT starts 3wks after your last sust shot.
PCT.
Clomid 100/50/50/25
nolva 40/20/20/20
HCG 500iu 3xwk from wk 9-13.

[uter87]

thank you mate! how should i dose the armidex if i get gyno and if it stay how should i run it through cycle?

[uter87]

also can i jst up the dose of nolva instead of getting clomid as i dnt wanna go blind so id rather jst use nolva... if possible

[uter87]

any1?

[LATS60]

thank you mate! how should i dose the armidex if i get gyno and if it stay how should i run it through cycle?

If you are concerned about gyno then run adex at 0.25mg ED throught your cycle.

also can i jst up the dose of nolva instead of getting clomid as i dnt wanna go blind so id rather jst use nolva... if possible

Clomid doesn't send you blind, but it will increase your chances of recovery from PCT, i would deff recommend you use it.

[uter87]

i was jst gunna use the adex if i get itchy nipples etc, but if i do i will start using it from that point till the finish, do u loose that much gains off it? also isnt nolva clomid pretty much the same thing so u could jst use nolva anyway? and if u can wat would u dose it as if u were gunna use nolva only?

[LATS60]

i was jst gunna use the adex if i get itchy nipples etc, but if i do i will start using it from that point till the finish, do u loose that much gains off it? also isnt nolva clomid pretty much the same thing so u could jst use nolva anyway? and if u can wat would u dose it as if u were gunna use nolva only?

Right, if you don't run the adex throughout and you do get gyno symptoms then start the nolva and run at 20mg ED for rest of cycle. Or start adex from the start of your cycle and run it throughout. Adex won't affect your gains.
Nolva and clomid are not the same, iv'e posted this a hundred times.
Clomid WILL give you a more sucessful PCT because it has properties that nolva doesn't, i wouldn't run just nolva for PCT.

[uter87]

ok cos im jst doing a test e cycle at the moment and i was jst gunna use nolva for pct cos i cant get my hands onto any clomid, will i be ok this time? but next time ill get clomid for sure...

[uter87]

i will have been on for 13 weeks at 500mg a week, and ill be going off for 3 months b4 next cycle easy, if i jst use nolva 40/20/20/20/20/10 ? will i be ok this time or will i be scrapping it? i kinda jumped in to early this cycle but yeah i hope ill be ok and next time ill have what i need for sure cos im a bit worried now...

[uter87]

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