8 weeks or 12+ weeks

**Muselz** · 02-11-2009, 04:36 PM

What is the best way to bulk? 8 week cycles or 12+ weekers?

Test P - 500mg ew
NPP - 400mg ew
8 weeks

or

Test E - 500mg ew
Deca - 400mg ew
12 weeks

**tinytom777** · 02-11-2009, 05:05 PM

depends on what compounds you are taking, sigh...stats? goals? training? diet? etc...

**johnnybigguns** · 02-11-2009, 05:25 PM

if your going short you should run short esters. They say the short cycles you will recover from better. I think I was reading before where if you were cycling over the year that you get alittle more build off the shorter ones

**The Deuce** · 02-11-2009, 05:27 PM

Originally Posted by tinytom777

depends on what compounds you are taking, sigh...stats? goals? training? diet? etc...

NO OFFENSE BROSKI BUT UMMM YOU HAVENT BELONGED TO THIS BOARD THAT LONG BUB AND WELL FROM ONLY 14 POSTS YOU HAVENT EXACTLY HAD TO SAY

STATS, GOALS, TRAINING, DIET, ETC... THAT MANY TIMES ON THIS BOARD BEFORE.. NOT SAYING YOU AREN'T A SEASONED AAS USER OR THAT YOU DONT KNOW YOUR STUFF BUT SOMEONE COULD MISINTERPRET WHAT YOU SAY SINCE YOU DONT HAVE A POST COUNT TO BACK UP YOUR KNOWLEDGE... IM SURE YOU DO HAVE IT THOUGH OR YOU WOULDNT HAVE ASKED SUCH QUESTIONS... I AINT RAGGIN' ON YA IT'S JUST THAT I AM THE ONE WHO SHOULD BE *SIGHING* SINCE I HAVE LITERALLY SAID THOSE SAME THINGS 100 TIMES... NO WORRIES.. JUST DIFFERENT SEEING SOMEONE SIGH FROM ONLY LIKE 14 POSTS... YA KNOW??

**Big** · 02-11-2009, 05:31 PM

Originally Posted by The Deuce

...I AM THE ONE WHO SHOULD BE *SIGHING* SINCE I HAVE LITERALLY SAID THOSE SAME THINGS 100 TIMES...

I feel your pain bro, just wait till you've asked that around 10,000 times lol.

**seriousmass** · 02-11-2009, 06:11 PM

Originally Posted by The Deuce

NO OFFENSE BROSKI BUT UMMM YOU HAVENT BELONGED TO THIS BOARD THAT LONG BUB AND WELL FROM ONLY 14 POSTS YOU HAVENT EXACTLY HAD TO SAY

STATS, GOALS, TRAINING, DIET, ETC... THAT MANY TIMES ON THIS BOARD BEFORE.. NOT SAYING YOU AREN'T A SEASONED AAS USER OR THAT YOU DONT KNOW YOUR STUFF BUT SOMEONE COULD MISINTERPRET WHAT YOU SAY SINCE YOU DONT HAVE A POST COUNT TO BACK UP YOUR KNOWLEDGE... IM SURE YOU DO HAVE IT THOUGH OR YOU WOULDNT HAVE ASKED SUCH QUESTIONS... I AINT RAGGIN' ON YA IT'S JUST THAT I AM THE ONE WHO SHOULD BE *SIGHING* SINCE I HAVE LITERALLY SAID THOSE SAME THINGS 100 TIMES... NO WORRIES.. JUST DIFFERENT SEEING SOMEONE SIGH FROM ONLY LIKE 14 POSTS... YA KNOW??

why do you constantly write in capitals...

why do you flame people for stupid reasons like saying "sigh" in their posts, when you give ridiculous advice like "sustanon will NOT work whatsoever, if you inject it once or twice a week"

LOL **sigh**

**Muselz** · 02-12-2009, 10:23 AM

Which cycle would you run, if you wanted to bulk up?

Test P - 500mg ew
NPP - 400mg ew
8 weeks

or

Test E - 500mg ew
Deca - 400mg ew
12 weeks

**chuckt12345** · 02-12-2009, 10:30 AM

the long ester would be better, give you more weeks to eat

**Muselz** · 02-12-2009, 10:36 AM

Originally Posted by chuckt12345

the long ester would be better, give you more weeks to eat

Which one do you rekon will add more mass?

**Big** · 02-12-2009, 10:39 AM

either would be a good cycle, although on the 12 week cycle I would stop the deca at week 11.

**Muselz** · 02-12-2009, 10:44 AM

Originally Posted by Big

either would be a good cycle, although on the 12 week cycle I would stop the deca at week 11.

Both will yield same results?

**chuckt12345** · 02-12-2009, 10:48 AM

basically but imo on the 12 wk course you are training and eating for 4 extra weeks. So i woudl assume it would make you gain more. But i just basing this on what i feel,, havent done a prop,npp cycle.

**Big** · 02-12-2009, 10:58 AM

I would expect the results to be comparable, personally I used to diet and train the same whether on cycle or off, and that is really what determines gains.

**Muselz** · 02-12-2009, 11:02 AM

Originally Posted by Big

I would expect the results to be comparable, personally I used to diet and train the same whether on cycle or off, and that is really what determines gains.

Yes, diet is key, but wchich one would you opt for, 8 weeker or 12 weeks?

**Big** · 02-12-2009, 11:24 AM

unless this is your one and only cycle, try one of them, then after pct and time off try the other, see which you prefer.

**Muselz** · 02-12-2009, 12:32 PM

Originally Posted by Big

unless this is your one and only cycle, try one of them, then after pct and time off try the other, see which you prefer.

True! Thanks for the input mate.

**supersiz2006** · 02-13-2009, 04:56 PM

Go with the Test and the Deca for 12 weeks. It has always worked for me in the past for great strength and mass gains.

**Big** · 02-13-2009, 05:04 PM

Originally Posted by supersiz2006

Go with the Test and the Deca for 12 weeks. It has always worked for me in the past for great strength and mass gains.

the 8 week prop/npp cycle didn't work for you? why not?

**The Deuce** · 02-13-2009, 06:05 PM

I personally like the Prop/NPP cycle the most... But the again I am a hugh fan of short esters.... I am sick freak I love sticking myself... GREAT rush I guess...

So my answer is go for the Short Estered Cycle... DO IT!!