Effective dosage?

[juicedgsxr]

Hey guys, first time aas user, but I have alot of experience in prohormones. Im currently on week one of test prop and trenbolone. My guy told me that I'd be good taking 100 mg of each for 10 weeks. Most of the info I come up with online pretty much states that I am WAY underdosing myself... Just curious if 100 mg a week of each would have a positive effect on me or if im just pissing away money taking such a dose. If body stats may help Im 22, 5'9, 190lbs. Thanks bros.

[Big]

Welcome.
I assume it's tren a, both should be injected every day, at most every other day, and those are very low dosages.
do you have pct planned?

[juicedgsxr]

Thanks Big. As far as pct I plan on eating 6 oxo and dhea, though i have no problem finding hcg, nolva, etc.... but as far as the once weekly injection of 100 mgs each, what do you think man? really im not looking for mr universe type results...lol.. Im just a really HARD gainer, and im needing something to help me grow, ya know? Edited That is why im after the lowest effective dose...

[Andro9]

Thanks Big. As far as pct I plan on eating 6 oxo and dhea, though i have no problem finding hcg, nolva, etc.... but as far as the once weekly injection of 100 mgs each, what do you think man? really im not looking for mr universe type results...lol.. Im just a really HARD gainer, and im needing something to help me grow, ya know? Edited That is why im after the lowest effective dose...

shooting once per week would be completely useless. prop and trena needs to be shot everyday EOD at the least. btw your pct is horrible. i think a litttle research would be helpful to ya....

[Darksyde]

no price discussions allowed on this board. and like i just posted in another thread, if you can barely afford drugs how can you afford all the food you need to really gain mass and bust through plateau's?

[juicedgsxr]

i can afford groceries dark, that is not the argument, and respectfully, i DID NOT ask you to try to judge me, I simply asked a question that was intended for people who like to share knowledge and help one another out. Im just seeking advice and knowledge, not judgement, ya dig?

[Big]

I would not even consider the cycle, your blood levels would be so unstable doing it in that way the sides would quite possibly drastically outweigh any benefits.

[juicedgsxr]

how would you suggest running the two chemicals, big? for example?

[Big]

I shoot both every day, I find a good starting dosage to be 500mg/week test and 350mg/week tren.

[juicedgsxr]

for how many weeks? 10?

[Big]

tren for 8 and test for 10 would be fine.

[T-MOS]

Listen to Big, Test P and Tren A you should be shooting ED.!

[juicedgsxr]

right on guys, thanks alot...really apreciate it..

[Njectable]

tren for a first time steroid user? Why not just start with the test? Guess its too late to turn back now

[juicedgsxr]

well moto, many prohormones ive taken in the past converted to tren, so im somewhat ready for it. although im not ignorant bro, i know this is a totally different animal. but i wanted to put the prop and tren together to get hopefully a successfull cycle.

[LizzardSecond]

I am not looking to hijack any threads here but I had a similar question. I have two friends right now that are all on test alone.
One guy that I know is on 325mg/week for 12 weeks. He has frequently done cycles in the past and has done some modeling because of his figure. He looks good. He has done all 500mg cycles in the past but has also done winstrol with it. This time he chose to actually do 325mg/week. I told him it was to low but he insisted on it. Well, his gains are 18lb and very little water retention. He actually thinned out bf wise and gained muscle.
Another lives next door to me and plays college baseball. He had his doctor do blood work and found that test was low. He is on 200mg, weekly injections. He started growth one month prior to the test. I dont have any further stats on him but he has lost alot of weight and gotten considerably stronger. I trained with him before the test and growth and now after and I am impressed by the gains. He trains completely different than me but he finds it good for shock to train with me occasionally. The doctor claims that the dosage he is on is perfect for long term sustainable growth. 1 year.
Why is the doctor recommending a much lower dosage and longer duration. Others that I know are gaining just as much over 12 weeks with 325mg than what we would normally recommend on this site.
What is the most effective dosage for long term permanent gains and over what period. 1 year, 12 weeks or 8 weeks.
Will one year on test and hgh lead to definite TRT therapy later in life.

[Njectable]

well moto, many prohormones ive taken in the past converted to tren, so im somewhat ready for it. although im not ignorant bro, i know this is a totally different animal. but i wanted to put the prop and tren together to get hopefully a successfull cycle.

well i'm sure it'll be a very effective cycle bro, i'm actually gonna try tren myself for my next upcomming cycle, stacked along with prop, and mast. You came to the right place for information anyways. Not sure what i'd do without these guys

[juicedgsxr]

right on bro, thanks alot

[johnnybigguns]

Way to low of a dose you should be around 50mg of each a day. I wouldn't suggest tren for a first timer either

[Immortal Soldier]

well moto, many prohormones ive taken in the past converted to tren, so im somewhat ready for it. although im not ignorant bro, i know this is a totally different animal. but i wanted to put the prop and tren together to get hopefully a successfull cycle.

The only PH's I know that ATTEMPT to convert to tren is Trenadrol and even then if what they put is actually a precursor chain of the parent hormone of tren (alot of them aren't even "tren" its just a different compound they use) it only actually converts to 6-8% of the power of real injectable tren that goes mostly for all PH's that try to copy their parent hormone.

Plus you would have gained 15+lbs by sticking to test alone and you would have saved alot of money and sides by not putting a hormone you aren't ready for.

I doubt you will get enough Tren A to run a successfully cycle(100mg ED of Tren A comes out to an expensive cycle and from what I read you don't have anywhere near that amount) just by telling the fact your PCT is 6-oxo and DHEA you will lose the majority of your gains.


Im probably coming off as a dick right, but let it be a sign to show you how fustrated you made me.

You would put Tren A (expensive product) + Test Prop, yet you would skimp out on arguably the most important part (the PCT)

Have fun and the fact that you tell guys who know much about you on this subject that you don't want there judgement shows you have the wrong mindset from the get go.

[LizzardSecond]

I agree with Immortal soilder. The PCT is everything. Everyone skimps on the PCT and I see a lot of guys at the gym just going in and out like balloons between cycle.