Questions Regarding Cycle of Sust

[cheechie24]

Hello all.

I have some questions and could use some advice.

I am currently 21.
5'10"
170

I have been working out solid now for 5 years. My past cycles include a month cycle of dbols. 30mg a day.

I am purchasing Sustanon later on today. I will give more details on it later.

How exactly should I cycle it? I am not sure whether it is 250mg or 500. I will find out in a bit.

I was planning on taking it once a week for the first few weeks anyway.

My goals on this cycle are to gain weight and quality muscle. I have a good diet, and I am going to make it more extreme when cycling.

My friend told me that I dont need to take PCT for it is only once cycle. I told him that I want him to find me some Clomid or Nolvadex, but I ant too sure he can get his hands on it for me. Is it neccesary to PCT? I am concerned about the unwanted side effects.

Thank you,
Cheechie

[T-MOS]

welcome, more to follow

http://forums.steroid.com/showthread.php?t=344896

read that link FIRST (then thank Big for posting it)

your friend isn't gonna be the one with man boobies, and a limp noodle PCT is a MUST for any cycle

I would NOT recomend Sust

I would wait a few years as you are NOT at your natural potential, which means you do not know how to eat to grow yet, so steroids will not do you much good right now

you need to learn to eat

[Big]

why sust?
and please don't take any more advice from your friend, of course you need pct.

[cheechie24]

welcome, more to follow


your friend isn't gonna be the one with man boobies, and a limp noodle PCT is a MUST for any cycle

I would NOT recomend Sust



you need to learn to eat

Why would you not recomend Sust? I know its 4 different types of test, and thats all he says he can get.

I know where your coming from with the diet. My whole life ive been trying to gain weight and I do work hard on it. I have a fast metabolism. I smoke ciggarates also. With this cycle I would quit, which would also help me gain more weight. With this cycle, it would bring me up to a good weight. I'm more like 5'9".

I appreciate all your advice.

[T-MOS]

sust is multi esters which delivers the test at several different times and needs to be injected EOD in order for your blood levels to be stable

single long ester Tests like Test E or Cyp have ONE ester and only needs injected every 3.5 days

steroids will NOT help you gain weight if you do not know how to eat now

post up a typical days food intake and times you eat and we can see what we can do to help

[jbm]

21 is still young! IMO.
Fix your diet!
Sustanon is not good for beginners!
PCT is the most important part of a cycle! IMO.
NEVER LISTEN TO YOUR FRIEND!
LISTEN TO THE VETS OF THIS FORUM!
Thanks!

[BrunkerVic]

If you have to do sust shoot it every other day (for example 125-150mg) or your wasting 25% of your gear.

At the very minimum get Nolvadex.

[Nooomoto]

Don't do anything until you get your PCT components. If you can't/don't get them, don't bother with the cycle. You're going to wreck your body.

[cheechie24]

I have read up on Sust it was primarly designed for a once a month shot. I dont plan on taking it every other day. I have another friend who took test cyp once a week and got good gains. These friends of mine were taken it back when just 18 years old.

My diet consists of 3 big meals. the following is basic day. evey day is a bit different in food except wake up

Wake up; orange juice, banana, weight gainer/protein shake. 50g

breakfest; hungry man hero, with 3 eggs sausage, ham bacon cheese

lunch; tuna or chicken ceasar salad

evening; protein shake.
WORKOUT

dinner; various meat such as steak and potato or sauce and maccaroni susausage meatball wid pasta. always vegetable or salad

snacks; cheese and peppironi once in a while cookies or donut

night; protein shake before bed

all throughout the day i drink a lot of water or ice tea. never soda

If you guys think my weight is too low. At what weight would you suggest I be at before considering?

I have expierence with DBOL and I went from 150 to 168- Which in fact I did gain weight and mass that stayed.

Thanks.

[cheechie24]

my friend says he cant get nolvadex and pct at GNC. is that true?

[T-MOS]

Sust was originally designed for old men using it for HRT only. for those it works just fine one shot every other week

you have to keep in mind you are using higher doses then HRT, so you need to worry about your blood levels more than an HRT person would.

if your are not willing to do things the correct way, then why waste our time asking questions on how you should be doing things????????????????????????????????

[T-MOS]

my friend says he cant get nolvadex and pct at GNC. is that true?

IF you keep listening to your fvcked up friends, you are gonna have man boobies and a limp dick

NO you can NOT get PCT compounds at GNC

[T-MOS]

oh and BTW, your diet sucks, that is why you are not growing. but i am too tired right now to dissect it for you

[jbm]

I have read up on Sust it was primarly designed for a once a month shot. I dont plan on taking it every other day. I have another friend who took test cyp once a week and got good gains. These friends of mine were taken it back when just 18 years old.

My diet consists of 3 big meals. the following is basic day. evey day is a bit different in food except wake up

Wake up; orange juice, banana, weight gainer/protein shake. 50g

breakfest; hungry man hero, with 3 eggs sausage, ham bacon cheese

lunch; tuna or chicken ceasar salad

evening; protein shake.
WORKOUT

dinner; various meat such as steak and potato or sauce and maccaroni susausage meatball wid pasta. always vegetable or salad

snacks; cheese and peppironi once in a while cookies or donut

night; protein shake before bed

all throughout the day i drink a lot of water or ice tea. never soda

If you guys think my weight is too low. At what weight would you suggest I be at before considering?

I have expierence with DBOL and I went from 150 to 168- Which in fact I did gain weight and mass that stayed.

Thanks.

Brother you need to change your diet all of it if you really want to grow!
check this out!
Do more research!
Thanks!
http://forums.steroid.com/forumdisplay.php?f=6

[Big]

my friend says he cant get nolvadex and pct at GNC. is that true?

no, but you could possibly find brighter friends at GNC.

[jbm]

no, but you could possibly find brighter friends at GNC.

Lol!

[cheechie24]

on the diet issue:

T-MOS: i appreciate your help. i have read what you said and I understand that my diet isnt perfect. I would like to know what you think is wrong in it. Im not able to eat every 3 hours because I am busy working and in school.

To be honest, my diet and sleep is inconsistent. You could consider me nocturnal. there are some nights that im up late (2/3am) and I dont wake up till 1/2 pm the next day. im missing out on a lot of meals. i know this is a problem. do you think it has a great influence on why i have trouble gaining weight?

jbm: I have read the post you listed and it is very informative. I got to eat a lot more and more frequently. (every 2/3 hours) I also need to increase my carbohydrates.

Do you guys believe that lower body workout is key to gaining weight? I never workout my legs except for cardio(mostly in the summer). They are not really in proportion with my upper body at all. If i was to squat and deadlift I would increase mass greatly. Could this have an big effect on my weight?

[cheechie24]

no, but you could possibly find brighter friends at GNC.

the guy and his wife wear turbans. gnc is overpiced. bodybuilding.com and massnutrition.com are the best buys.

also; i havent been taking supplements lately.
would you suggest stacking a NO Xplode and creatine before workouts also?

[Big]

I like a good no product, I haven't taken creatine in a long time. not even sure why, I just haven't.

[T-MOS]

on the diet issue:

T-MOS: i appreciate your help. i have read what you said and I understand that my diet isnt perfect. I would like to know what you think is wrong in it. Im not able to eat every 3 hours because I am busy working and in school.

To be honest, my diet and sleep is inconsistent. You could consider me nocturnal. there are some nights that im up late (2/3am) and I dont wake up till 1/2 pm the next day. im missing out on a lot of meals. i know this is a problem. do you think it has a great influence on why i have trouble gaining weight?

jbm: I have read the post you listed and it is very informative. I got to eat a lot more and more frequently. (every 2/3 hours) I also need to increase my carbohydrates.

Do you guys believe that lower body workout is key to gaining weight? I never workout my legs except for cardio(mostly in the summer). They are not really in proportion with my upper body at all. If i was to squat and deadlift I would increase mass greatly. Could this have an big effect on my weight?

DUH !!! YES diet is 89% of this whole thing!!! steroids will NOT make up for a poor diet

legs are your foundation, weak foundation = weak building, the stronger your legs, the stronger the rest of your body will become as a side effect of it

[Big]

DUH !!! YES diet is 89% of this whole thing!!! steroids will NOT make up for a poor diet

yep^
sleep is critical as well, that's when you repair and grow.