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    Skillzlikewhoa9 is offline New Member
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    Questions for a Newbie. Please Help!

    I need some help deciding what AS might be best for me. I have researched this board and other resources for hours upon hours and I think I'm ready to take the plunge. I did some blood work last week and I will talk to my doctor next week for any advice. (He probably will be skeptical I'm assuming)

    First some background: I am a 24 year old former college athlete (Soccer) who has always struggled with putting on muscle mass. I have also just recovered from shoulder surgery (torn labrum) and with the time off, have really lost some mass. I have just started to get back in the swing of things and really want to get back stronger and faster than ever.

    Here are my Stats:

    Age: 24 years old
    Height: 5'8"
    Weight: 178
    Body Fat: 18% (Roughly)

    Sorry, I dont have pictures but to describe my body, I have big legs (from playing soccer) and a average upper body with very skinny arms and a weak chest despite my years of effort. I had a six pack but now its covered by a thin layer of fat.


    My goals are to be Stronger, Faster and Leaner. I don't just want to get big. I would rather gain lean muscle and stay fairly cut. I also don't want to gain too much weight for speed purposes. I train pretty consistently and my diet is fairly good. Although I struggle sometimes with eating junk food

    I have been looking at Winstrol , Clen , Deca , and Anavar . I need help deciding which one might be best for me or maybe something else. I don't mind injections but would prefer orals. I would also like to limit the side effects obviously, especially the man boobs. I'm also a little worried about balding which makes me wary of Winny. But I am open to any suggestions.

    Please give me any input or feedback and anything is greatly appreciated.

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    Welcome!
    Your BF% is too high, 15% below is better. IMO!
    If this will be your 1st cycle consider Test E and Test C!
    PCT! is very important.
    Diet must be in check.
    Thanks!

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    if you are not worried about gaining alot of mass. you can do a lower dose cycle of test enthanate and deca ..
    in the past i have used 300mg of deca with 300mg of test enthanate with solid gains decreased overall fat and no loss of speed. its an easy 2 and half cc shot. you can pull the whole cycle off for a few hundred bucks including clomid and points..(atleast i hope i havnet purchased in a couple years)
    i didnt lose much speed untill i started doing doses of a gram plus (combined agents)
    if you are playing sports winny is hard on your connective tissue, so is tren acetate. i have always loved deca its like joint lube. it is also good for endurence.

    just curious.. what does body fat have to do with a cycle.. i have never seen anyone in the 500 club with a six pack..

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    Quote Originally Posted by bubbagun20 View Post
    just curious.. what does body fat have to do with a cycle.. i have never seen anyone in the 500 club with a six pack..
    Higher the body fat more prone to unwanted side effect.

    High bf% and cycling
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    Quote Originally Posted by bubbagun20 View Post
    if you are not worried about gaining alot of mass. you can do a lower dose cycle of test enthanate and deca ..
    in the past i have used 300mg of deca with 300mg of test enthanate with solid gains decreased overall fat and no loss of speed. its an easy 2 and half cc shot. you can pull the whole cycle off for a few hundred bucks including clomid and points..(atleast i hope i havnet purchased in a couple years)
    i didnt lose much speed untill i started doing doses of a gram plus (combined agents)
    if you are playing sports winny is hard on your connective tissue, so is tren acetate. i have always loved deca its like joint lube. it is also good for endurence.

    just curious.. what does body fat have to do with a cycle.. i have never seen anyone in the 500 club with a six pack..
    So I inject the Deca and Test together? Also, has anyone else tried this cycle? Thanks a lot

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    Quote Originally Posted by Skillzlikewhoa9 View Post
    So I inject the Deca and Test together? Also, has anyone else tried this cycle? Thanks a lot
    Sounds like you are only looking for answers that you want to hear and not too concerned about the risks involved.

    What do you have for PCT for a cycle like this?

    Test/Deca is a decent cycle IF done correctly and diet and training and PCT are on spot

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    Im not still not sure what type of PCT im going to use. Maybe some Clomid.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Skillzlikewhoa9 View Post
    Im not still not sure what type of PCT im going to use. Maybe some Clomid.
    READ:

    http://forums.steroid.com/showthread.php?t=349581

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    I'd stick to one compound my first go round. Test C/E for 12 weeks 400/500 mgs (split into 2 injections every 3.5 days)

    (know PCT and your diet inside out)

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    Diet is the most crucial thing right now IMO. Don't worry about the compounds you are going to use or even your PCT. not until you have used a strict diet. You said you battle with junk food. that will KILL your gains and destroy any hopes of reaching your goals. The diet section has tons of information i think you should learn how to eat before thinking about cycling. IMO, sounds harsh but you want the best advice i think anyone on this board will highly agree without proper diet, you shouldn't even consider using AAS.

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