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    Is This Cycle OK for me (newbie)?

    First off, my specs:
    Age: 21
    Height: 5'11
    Weight: 150
    Worked Out: 4 years 2 of which have been strict (5 days a week)
    Body Fat: 8%
    I consume around 3500-4000 Calories a day. Eating is my biggest problem because I am so dang picky.

    Blood Panel:
    Cholesterol 141
    Triglycerides 63
    HDL 40²
    LDL 88
    VLDL 12.5
    PSH 6.4
    LH 7.5
    Prolactin 24.5 HIGH(2.0-18.0 is normal)
    IGF-I 306
    T-4 Free 1.2
    TSH, 3rd generation 1.89
    Sex Hormone Binding Globulin (SHBG) 38
    Glucose 77
    Urea Nitrogen (BUN) 9
    Creatinine 1.09
    Sodium 143
    Potassium 4.1
    Chloride 104
    Carbon Dioxide 25
    Calcium 9.9
    Protein, Total 7.3
    Albumin 4.9
    Globulin 2.4
    Albumin/Globulin Ration 2.0
    Bilirubin, Total 0.9
    Alkaline Phosphatase 55
    AST 24
    ALT 41
    ESTRADIOL-6 14.04 (to the 4th power)
    Testosterone , Total 342 (250-1100 is normal)

    I had my Total Testosterone tested several times... I've had it as low as 100.3 to as high as 610. I was 20 when all of the tests were done and even though they are within normal limits to the doctor, my levels are equal to my father who is 51 (seems low to me).

    Now that you have seen all of that information lol here is the cycle I want to run...

    16 week total cycle
    Weeks 1-11: Test C 300mg per week
    Weeks 1-10: Decaplex 275mg per week
    Weeks 1-4: Methanoplex (Methandienone) 30mg/day
    Weeks 1-16: Nolvadex 20mg/day
    Weeks 14-16: CLOMID CYCLE

    CLOMID CYCLE:
    Week 1: 300mg/100mg/100mg/100mg/100mg/100mg/100mg
    Week 2: 100mg/100mg/100mg/100mg/50mg/50mg50mg
    Week 3: 50mg/50mg/50mg/50mg/50mg/50mg/50mg

    I wasn't sure if I wanted to do the decaplex 275 yet, Let me know what you all think.

    Let me know if you need/want any more information. Thanks everyone in advance for your help!

    PS: I have slight gyno from Tren Xtreme in both nipples, so I am definitely prone to aromitization or w/e. This is one of my biggest worries so I want to make sure I have the right PCT and estro blockers on-hand
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    how old are you now? Is this your first cycle?

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    id drop the deca
    id also drop the clomid down to 100 the first day..
    id run 100mg clomid and 20mg nolvadex for 30 days..maybe drop the clomid down to 50mg the last 2 weeks

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    Sorry, out of all that info I left out my age.

    I am 21 and yes, this will be my first cycle.

    I have cycled prohormones before:
    Tren Xtreme
    DecaPro
    Halodrol
    3-AD

    but this is my first REAL cycle

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    I eat really healthy. I eat a lot of Fish (Salmon, Tilapia, Orange Roughy). I eat lots of broccoli, carrots, romaine lettuce. TONS of fruit (pineapple, apples, nectarines, oranges). I take protein shakes when I wake up and after I workout. I eat red meat 2-3 times a week and lots of chicken breasts.

    I upped my food intake to 5500 ish calories for 12 weeks and gained 5lbs, got sick and lost the 5lbs I tried so hard to gain.

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    Age aside I still would say you are not gear ready. You are 5-11 and 150 pounds. something in your routine is lacking. Your diet and training has to be consistant. ALso with that said, your size maybe a result of you low-end test count. So for you I would say (and any first time really) just run a test only cycle and work hard at gaining mass.
    Test only cycle will most likely be the best bet for you right now. Like i said, that is disreguarding age as a factor here

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    Disregard what I am wearing haha, it was halloween of 2008, so October 21st,2008. I've attached pics of what I look like (it is all I could find with no shirt on)


    Current Training Routine:
    *10 minutes of cardio before lifting and 10 minutes of cardio after lifting*

    Mon: Chest/Bi (bench, incline dumbbell, decline barbell, flat bench dumbbell/ Standing Barbell Curl, Dumbbell Curl, Preacher Curl, hammers)

    Tues: Abs/OFF (internal obliques and upper abs)

    Wed: Back/Tri (Lat pulldown, pull-ups, seated row, barbell bent over row/ weighted dips, rope pushdown, skull crusher, dumbbell kickbacks)

    Thurs: Abs/OFF (external obliques and lower abs)

    Fri: Shoulder/Traps (barbell shoulder press, side raises, front raises, military press/ dumbbell shrugs, barbell shrugs)

    Sat: OFF

    Sun: Legs (dumbbell lunge, leg press, jump squats, seated calf raises, standing calf raises)
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    Not to pile on but those pics are not even close to 8% bf.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FireGuy1 View Post
    Not to pile on but those pics are not even close to 8% bf.
    Just going off what the electrical thing you hold out in front of you at the gym said

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    definitely dont look like 150lbs either and at 5'11?

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    Bro, it looks as if you need to eat more/better. I'd hit the diet forum first. AAS will only creat problems for you at your age

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    Since you are all saying I need to eat before doing this, is there anything that will make me hungry? I am rarely ever hungry, I have to force myself to eat the 3-4 meals a day that I DO eat.

    any opinions on what you guys do to stuff those calories down and gain weight?
    (I've tried doing 10 minutes of cardio right when I wake up to get everything going, but still I didn't find myself hungry)

    I've tried taking weight gainer proteins between meals like serious mass and quick mass but I never really noticed any actual weight gains.


    Help pleeeeaaassseee LOL. I finally broke the 140 barrier and made it to 150. I have been trying to get to 165lbs for almost a year now. Ever since I got to 150, if I gain 5lbs I get sick and end up back at 150

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    here is some info to keep you started:

    UNoffical "How to Bulk" thread and sample diet...

    You need to get real, clean, solid food.

    Personally, I have to force myself to eat at times. You will get used to it.

    Just think, it's worth it to achieve your goals.

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    Quote Originally Posted by derek7m View Post
    here is some info to keep you started:

    UNoffical "How to Bulk" thread and sample diet...

    You need to get real, clean, solid food.

    Personally, I have to force myself to eat at times. You will get used to it.

    Just think, it's worth it to achieve your goals.
    Thanks for the link!!!

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    no prob.

    what you should do is tailor that general diet to your specific caloric needs.

    After that, you can post it in the diet forum for critique and tweaking.

    you should also probably also read this:

    Free Diet advice by Narkissos & Novastepp: Intro to Performance Nutrition 101
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    i eat every 2-3hrs. so i am almost never hungry, but that never stops me from eating. there is no way around it. you wanna get big you gotta eat, there is no secret pill or magic workout, just lots of food.

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    Quote Originally Posted by godkilla View Post
    i eat every 2-3hrs. so i am almost never hungry, but that never stops me from eating. there is no way around it. you wanna get big you gotta eat, there is no secret pill or magic workout, just lots of food.
    agreed, I can't remember the last time I felt hungry. I eat because it's the fuel I need to grow, hunger has nothing to do with it.

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    eat,

    eat REAL food

    good food

    good proteins NOT POWDERS

    Eat Every two hours!!

    Force yourself,

    It sucks, but it can be done and we have all done it or are still doing it !!!

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