Need Advice Plz

[Charger-T]

I've been on cycle for a long time maybe 20+ w then i stoped for a month and a half i did some tests
my test,LH,Fsh was low but estrogen was normal anyways i desided to countinue
now i'm on my 3rd week of 12 weeks cycle which is
sust 500, deca 500, equa 500, tren eth 200, test prop 200 all in a week
gonna cut it down next week to deca 500 and test prop 600
anyways someone advised me to stop and do a pct cuz of the effetcs tht might happen
my question is can i continue with this cycle and after tht restart my test production and would it get back to normal? if not what could happen if i didn't stop ?

Age 21, weight 78kgs

[T-MOS]

WOW ! seriously?

If you don't stop, you can screw up your HPTA for LIFE

meaning, you would need TRT for life. no erections, no libido, ect.....

21 and doing this kind of crazy ass crap to your body ???

[Charger-T]

yeah i got carried away with the resultes and accidentley i heard tht it'll stop my production for life i didn't know tht b4 , but do u think i would be able to get it back online after all this time ?

[T-MOS]

yeah i got carried away with the resultes and accidentley i heard tht it'll stop my production for life i didn't know tht b4 , but do u think i would be able to get it back online after all this time ?

No one will be able to tell you that.

I would run an aggressive PCT for at least 2 months and then stay away from steroids for a few more years

[T-MOS]

Here maybe this will help you, its from SWIFTO

PCT's dont change dramatically, I dont think, even for supplement(s) cycles.

There seems to be a never ending number of, "What PCT for Sust/Deca?", "What PCT for Dbol/Test?".

When using androgens, that cause shutdown or inhibtion, the PCT should remain, mostly, unchanged. 95% of cycles cause complete shutdown (shutdown of endogenous testosterone production). Cyles containing Testosterone or 19-Nors, will cause almost complete testicular shutdown. Therfore an aggressive PCT is needed.

Use an AI if you havent used one when "on" to lower estrogen, which is extremely suppressive (leydig cells) during PCT.

Use proven SERMs (Clomid, Nolva).

Use Tormifene, which has recently been reported to be the best SERM at restarting an inhibited HPTA.

Use HCG when "on" to maintain testicular size/function.

My advice is:

Steroid/ProHormone cycle causing HPTA shutdown (HCG may not be needed in cycles below 6 weeks IMHO)

Use HCG 125-250ius 2-3 times weekly. 10-15 days from your final Test shot, ramp your HCG to 250-500ius and ramp you AI slightly. This will cause a spike in endogenous testosterone and aromotase. We then use PCT to restart GnRH from the hypothalamus and LH/FSH from the pituitary. When beginning PCT, switch to another AI also.

wk 1-5 Clomid 25-50mg/ED OR Torm 120/60mg/ED
wk 1-5 Nolva 20mg/ED OR Torm 60mg/ED
*Aromasin 25mg/ED OR Arimidex 0.5-1mg/ED

*AI's are not always needed, especially if one has been used to control estrogen (aromatse activity) during the cycle. There is a high risk of lowering estrogen too low and that can bring its own side effects; Lowered labido, aching joints, poor cholesterol and can negatively effect the immune system. We need some estrogen, not alot, not zero, but one cannot afford a too low an estrogen level at this time of PCT.

Tribulas or another labido enhancer (Proviron).

Supplement cycle inhibiting the HPTA


wk 1-4 Clomid 25-50mg/ED OR Torm 60mg/ED
wk 1-4 Nolva 20mg/ED

Trib or another labido enhancer.


Thats it. Read the sticky's.

There are far too many "What PCT" threads here.

[Charger-T]

Man i'm gonna stay away for life but hopefuly i'll be able to get it back
my pct plan is hcg 1500 IU 3x/w in combination with 100 mg clomid and 20mg Nolvadex for the first 3 weeks after i'll discontinue the hcg and cut down clomid to 50mg a day and i'll add some tribulus, next week will be the last week for this cycle i'm getting really paranoid!

[UncleD]

do you compete at a high level at 21 years old?? if not then staying on for long times or forever is NOT what i advice doing its verry dumb... do a hardcore pct and stay off for a long time maybe for good... ask yourself "why am i even juiceing"

[Charger-T]

i don't compete at all
well i didn't want to at first but i was stuck in a certain weight for a long time when i started juiceing i noticed resultes right away and i got addicted, but after wht i've heard i'm gonna stay away for good

[UncleD]

i don't compete at all
well i didn't want to at first but i was stuck in a certain weight for a long time when i started juiceing i noticed resultes right away and i got addicted, but after wht i've heard i'm gonna stay away for good

keys words "adicted" you said it all right there.. your makin the right choice!! many people cant admit to that.. even i am borderline ":adicted" if it becomes a prob for me im hangin up my hat!!

[powerlifter18]

u cant get addicted to steroids

[tudodude]

u cant get addicted to steroids

lol

[FireGuy]

u cant get addicted to steroids

You can have an addiction to just about anything. Just because your body does not get addicted to it does not mean it cant happen. All you have to do is look at addicted gamblers if you want further proof.