Can someone tell me the risks of running winstrol depot only for a 8 week cycle for cutting for a show. I am very confused I have seen people who run this only at the end of their cycle and have fantastic results. Any input greatly appreciated
Can someone tell me the risks of running winstrol depot only for a 8 week cycle for cutting for a show. I am very confused I have seen people who run this only at the end of their cycle and have fantastic results. Any input greatly appreciated
I'm not a fan of running any compound that suppresses test production without also running test.
i would run a test in any cycle... good rule of thumb (that a wierd saying huh?)
I don't know much about bodybuilding comps..but .. test with winny is an awsome combo..if your worried about testing...and not scared of pins..look into test suspension to run along winny...or even just prop
i dont like to use winny even with just test, hell atleast test/deca/winny or test/tren/winny/var is awsome.. winny alone is a waste of your $
i run winny alone @ 100mgs every day for 6 weeks and had very good results indeed ,i will say this ,even at 9-10% body fat after i finished the winny i felt very soft indeed but when on cycle of winny only i felt and looked the best i ever have.
as I said, you could run test prop with the winny if you are worried about water retention and use and AI if needed
on a winny only cycle right now been on for two weeks and already seen noticeable body fat loss and my muscles are like a rock
what if i just use test? will i see any results?
gain fat or muscle??
also, a guy at my gym said i would lose strength if i used winny.. is that true?
thanx
no. u would not lose strength if you used winny. that guy is an idiot.
anyone have an input on doing it for just 4 weeks out from a show...i need to keep my weight under 176.25 and thats going to be tough. Started at 11.5% 205, right now I am 193. I don't want to gain any weight from test. Is the winny only a good idea? My trainer said I would be fine at 50mg per day oral. (thats all i got) She thinks I will be very lean and it will help a lot.
You need test
i think, along with all the others that you shouldn't be doing a cycle with winny only. You need some testosterone
well I know PLENTY of people who did winny only for 6-8 weeks and they were fine and loved it. When I asked them about sexual side effects, the overwhelming response was "what do you mean?!" as in, "no, none experienced". This is a true story.
personally, I will be running a winny only cycle for 6 weeks, but that's only because I didn't get access to test in time. Otherwise, I would've ran test e for 12 weeks along with the winny.
Now, realistically, if the only side effects of winny only is possible lowered sexual ability, and say, the person doesn't really care about that, especially since there is cialis and viagra, what is the problem of running winny only, when some people only want it for the muscle hardness without putting on any weight??
because sexual side effects are only one of the symptoms often associated with low test. lethargy, lack of motivation, hell just look into trt and there are many symptoms associated with low test. many people run suppressive cycles without test and do fine, I just don't understand why they would want to. test when dosed properly is one of the most enjoyable compounds I've ever used, after all test is what makes us men. myself and many others have a feeling of overall well-being when on test, and there are many ways to control the few negative sides associated with it. I've never seen anyone attain anything on a suppressive cycle without test that they couldn't also have achieved while adding test to the cycle.
Everyone is different. A friend did a 6 week winny only cylce and i don't think he has had a Boner since. And his girlfriend actually left him. I think diet has a place in it too.
im talking only precontest! but i need to keep my wieght down, idk, the responses are mixed, im going to go ahead and do it
if you are, keep a log and inform us please.
http://forums.steroid.com/showthread.php?t=367852
already got one going, still 5 weeks from taking the winny but this is where it will be
you need test.
if you're competing surely you would know this anyway
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