Equipoise sides??? can anyone give opinoins!

**KAEW44** · 02-17-2009, 09:27 AM

Hi guys can anyone give me their experience on negative sides of EQ, i read as many profiles for this substance as i can find online and the only thing emphasized is it lowering the sex drive and shutting you down sexually if you dont run Test with it.

Any opinions on Hairloss, Acne, and Joint-dryness?

**redz** · 02-17-2009, 09:42 AM

Most negative thing I hear about it is how weak it is. I have not used it myself but suspect the vast majority of people making this claim shows it must be atleast somewhat true.

**tadpoleboyy** · 02-17-2009, 10:51 AM

i wouldnt use it alone, but i have had basically zero side effects with it when using it with low dose test. Not the strongest stuff, but it makes up for that in safetly. It will get you vascular. For me the most troublesome compounds are deca and test. Test makes me bald, and acne. Not to mention estrogen sides. Deca gives me prolactin sides everytime, sometimes night sweats, and bloat. Im not even guna try tren , if deca causes me this much trouble.

People love to hate on eq, but its good stuff if you ask me, and will provide quality gains.

**johnnybigguns** · 02-17-2009, 11:32 AM

Definitely need to run it with test. People say its weak. When I ran it I never noticed any sides

**redz** · 02-17-2009, 11:34 AM

i wouldnt use it alone, but i have had basically zero side effects with it when using it with low dose test. Not the strongest stuff, but it makes up for that in safetly. It will get you vascular. For me the most troublesome compounds are deca and test. Test makes me bald, and acne. Not to mention estrogen sides. Deca gives me prolactin sides everytime, sometimes night sweats, and bloat. Im not even guna try tren , if deca causes me this much trouble.

People love to hate on eq, but its good stuff if you ask me, and will provide quality gains.

Have you tried running caber or bromo with deca? That will take care of prolactin problems.

**swol_je** · 02-17-2009, 11:41 AM

Its weak by its self but one of the safer AAS. The pumps and veins are pretty bad ass, but it take about 3-4 weeks to kick in.

**supermarty** · 02-17-2009, 01:11 PM

400mg. per week and about the same Test. makes me hungry and can make my stomach burn like I need to eat. I am 9 weeks in and am lifting big weights. You can't use the same things all the time so EQ makes for a good change. I will use it again but not for a couple of years. Easy on the joints, no hair problems, and no acne. Good Luck.

**Dinosaur** · 02-17-2009, 01:11 PM

if u are prone to hairloss u will notice some with any aas use. as for acne its up to ur body how it reacts to juice. i do get zits here and there sometimes. keep in mind that u can run prohormone and still get acne.

**fitguy** · 02-17-2009, 05:01 PM

Originally Posted by supermarty

400mg. per week and about the same Test. makes me hungry and can make my stomach burn like I need to eat. I am 9 weeks in and am lifting big weights. You can't use the same things all the time so EQ makes for a good change. I will use it again but not for a couple of years. Easy on the joints, no hair problems, and no acne. Good Luck.

how much did you gain till now?

**The Deuce** · 02-17-2009, 05:05 PM

Use it at 800 mgs per week and You should be doin' NICELY !!!

**redz** · 02-17-2009, 05:07 PM

Use it at 800 mgs per week and You should be doin' NICELY !!!

Thats my current Test dose along with 600mg Tren E. I do hear people have more results with higher eq doses overall though with little sides.

**Versuson** · 03-20-2009, 05:55 AM

I ran EQ alone for 12 weeks and it caused me severe acne on my back.

**Indymuscleguy** · 03-20-2009, 06:38 AM

so far so good for me. I'm running 400mg/week. I am dosing it q3 days. Should I shoot 200mg EOD? I am stacking it with test E

**J-Dogg** · 03-20-2009, 06:45 AM

I ran it alone for 8 weeks, before addding Test - E on my current cycle.

I had decent gains with it at 600mgs/week.

Never had any body hair growth or acne, sex drive did drop though. It will make you very hungry. I put on about 16 lbs with it in 8 weeks and a lot of it is because you are eating so much. it was not all clean weight! And I think I'm the only one to ever retain some water from EQ.

I add Test-E with it now, just 250mgs and 50mgs of tbol daily and it's working out well.

EQ 16 weeks 600mgs/week
Test E 10 weeks/250mgs week
tbol 8 weeks/50mgs daily

I use letro to avoid bloat through the cycle.

**Indymuscleguy** · 03-20-2009, 06:49 AM

You use femara vs arimidex for water reduction? I am running .25mg eod. It appears I may be underdosing my EQ. Like I said above, I'm running 400 per week with my Test E at 500 per week.

Any thoughts?

**J-Dogg** · 03-20-2009, 07:53 AM

I use letro for water reduction, I'm not sure if armidex would work better or not.

Low sodium, lots of water, sweat out 45 minutes of cardio and I look fine. And I bloat up pretty good.

**marcus300** · 03-20-2009, 08:20 AM

side are, high RBC and you wont build any muscle tissue, kind of pointless AAS IMHO, worthless

**mr.a** · 03-20-2009, 08:29 AM

Originally Posted by marcus300

side are, high RBC and you wont build any muscle tissue, kind of pointless AAS IMHO, worthless

Sorry to ask this, but what does RBC means?

Edit: found what it is

**The Deuce** · 03-20-2009, 08:34 AM

Originally Posted by marcus300

side are, high RBC and you wont build any muscle tissue, kind of pointless AAS IMHO, worthless

EQ is worthless?? Really?? I thought it was actually a good AS. It's not the BEST... and it's expensive but to me... where money isn't an issue... I dont mind running it at a Gram per week. I just happen to like it... Yes I know there are better things out there but I like switching up my compounds....

**marcus300** · 03-20-2009, 09:04 AM

Originally Posted by The Deuce

EQ is worthless?? Really?? I thought it was actually a good AS. It's not the BEST... and it's expensive but to me... where money isn't an issue... I dont mind running it at a Gram per week. I just happen to like it... Yes I know there are better things out there but I like switching up my compounds....

IMHO Yes I do think its worthless, its very weak take weeks to even do anything and thats if your one of these guys who says its does, i feel most think it does something are mistaken by the other compounds within the cycle, if you ran just a EQ only cycle you will see it does nothing for muscle tissue gains at all. If you feel its worth taking go right ahead but for me i would rather use something what is going to build muscle tissue,

**J-Dogg** · 03-20-2009, 10:03 AM

Originally Posted by marcus300

side are, high RBC and you wont build any muscle tissue, kind of pointless AAS IMHO, worthless

I agree to a point, I gain with it, but I eat a lot on it, which would cause gains anyway.

My biggest gains come after adding other compounds to it.

**marcus300** · 03-20-2009, 10:26 AM

Originally Posted by J-Dogg

I agree to a point, I gain with it, but I eat a lot on it, which would cause gains anyway.

My biggest gains come after adding other compounds to it.

Exactly, other compounds..

i agree it does increase the appetite

**The Deuce** · 03-20-2009, 10:49 AM

Originally Posted by marcus300

IMHO Yes I do think its worthless, its very weak take weeks to even do anything and thats if your one of these guys who says its does, i feel most think it does something are mistaken by the other compounds within the cycle, if you ran just a EQ only cycle you will see it does nothing for muscle tissue gains at all. If you feel its worth taking go right ahead but for me i would rather use something what is going to build muscle tissue,

Very good point... I never thought of it that way... I have never ran an EQ only cycle. I ran an Test CYP (400mgs EW [16]) and EQ (1000 mgs EW[16]) and I made awesome awesome gains and kept damn near all of it upon succession of cycle.. I just felt that I gained more because 1. I was hungrier on that cycle than I ever had been before on any cycle and 2. because when I ran a CYP only cycle of 400 mgs EW for 14 weeks on the previous cycle I didnt even come anywhere near what I gain on the CYP + EQ cycle ya know what I mean?? That's kinda why I was defending the EQ but !!!

I totally here you on how you feel about EQ maybe you are right that EQ is worthless... Now that I have heard this about EQ from you and I definitely value you your opinion.. you are extremely knowledgeable and odds are... now i will never run EQ again...

**domeyeahaigh** · 03-20-2009, 11:48 AM

Agreed, EQ is a waste of time, needs to be ran for a long time so you will be shut down harder, gains are minimal. If you are running something for a long time go with deca .

***FireGuy*** · 03-20-2009, 11:55 AM

Originally Posted by domeyeahaigh

Agreed, EQ is a waste of time, needs to be ran for a long time so you will be shut down harder, gains are minimal. If you are running something for a long time go with deca.

If you are worried about being shut down I would not suggest deca .

**DS21** · 03-20-2009, 06:31 PM

Originally Posted by The Deuce

Very good point... I never thought of it that way... I have never ran an EQ only cycle. I ran an Test CYP (400mgs EW [16]) and EQ (1000 mgs EW[16]) and I made awesome awesome gains and kept damn near all of it upon succession of cycle.. I just felt that I gained more because 1. I was hungrier on that cycle than I ever had been before on any cycle and 2. because when I ran a CYP only cycle of 400 mgs EW for 14 weeks on the previous cycle I didnt even come anywhere near what I gain on the CYP + EQ cycle ya know what I mean?? That's kinda why I was defending the EQ but !!!

I totally here you on how you feel about EQ maybe you are right that EQ is worthless... Now that I have heard this about EQ from you and I definitely value you your opinion.. you are extremely knowledgeable and odds are... now i will never run EQ again...

If it worked for you, then I would run it again. What works for some doesn't work for all.

**Hazard** · 03-20-2009, 06:38 PM

I ran EQ at 600mg's/wk along with 600mg's test..... it was definately wayyyyyyyyyyyy weaker of a cycle compared to 400mg's tren E and 600mg's test......

No dice on the EQ for me again..... I've heard about the RBC thing quite a few times...... and it definately does make me hungry.

~Haz~

**J-Dogg** · 03-20-2009, 06:58 PM

Originally Posted by Hazard

I ran EQ at 600mg's/wk along with 600mg's test..... it was definately wayyyyyyyyyyyy weaker of a cycle compared to 400mg's tren E and 600mg's test......

No dice on the EQ for me again..... I've heard about the RBC thing quite a few times...... and it definately does make me hungry.

~Haz~

I still don't think it's a waste at all.

It's a compound that has his strengths. EQ has very few sides, it's not going to make you blow up like Test E in high dosages does and it's not going to give you the strength gains of Tren.

It's a compound that works well for a mild cycle, someone looking to make some respectable solid gains and keep most of them.

I'm very pleased with it in my current cycle, with a low dose of Test E just to replace my natural test and t-bol.

I'm gyno senstive and don't like to use high dosages of test. My goal was to get to a lean 210, and i'm 223 now. I did not want to run the risk of gyno or touch on the subject of anything that causes prolactin build up.

It's not the compound if your looking to put up big numbers in the off season, want to be a power lifter or a line man on a football team. But it has it's uses.

**molecule** · 03-21-2009, 06:36 AM

I think EQ works if u take 600 Mg/week. Anything more does not show much difference. 600 is the magic number.

EQ results are seen only after week 6
EQ makes u very very hungry.
I have heard the gains of EQ stay for long after the cycle. (one reason i would love this compound)
I think u need to add some form of Test with any kind of roid you take.

I am on week 10 of EQ 600mg/wk and Sust 250 EOD. I can feel the vasularity like never before. The muscle feel solid and strong. Power has gone up from 120 pounds inclined dumbell press to 240 pounds in 8 weeks. Facing no side effects as of now.