Can it be done - rewrite?

[taoros]

The thread was locked and I could not edit, so...

Ok, so I read the WARNINGS and all that intro stuff but here it goes.

I have friends in western Europe and they are using injectable Deca and Sustanon. They take 1ml a week of each for 3 months and cut with winstrol after that just to tighten things up. They are NOT into body building and as you can see they are just doing a little to enhance themselves to look good and to do it the easy way. It works for what they need it for.

I am over 30 and I would like to do the same exact thing. Never considered doing steroids but I changed my mind because I can't seem to be able to eat enough to gain weight and my strength is nut up to snuff no matter what I do. I mostly want to look better.

My buddies can source pretty much whatever they need and they have no problem getting the needles and syringes.

Knowing what you guys say in this forum how can I do the above? It's not a biggie if it's too difficult but I would like to.

I told you about the drugs because I wanted to point out that they can get whatever they want and from what I can see here that will not be the case, so what's a man to do...?

[Phate]

should i mention that rec drug talk is prohibited as well

age
weight
height
bf%
training exp
diet in detail

[johnnybigguns]

If you can't gain weight by your diet your not gunna gain weight from AS

[Darksyde]

steroids aren't food. you will still need to eat a lot to gain weight. so if you can't eat maybe you should look into some of their other recreational drugs you pointed out.

[johnnybigguns]

Theres 3 legs diet training and AS is this puzzle you gotta have all 3 legs perfect to get the best results

[taoros]

Is it better now?

Stats,

5'7"
155lb
fat %-age is probably in the mid teens - (don't know)

[Phate]

Is it better now?

Stats,

5'7"
155lb
fat %-age is probably in the mid teens - (don't know)

much, thank you for the edit

post a pic with your face edited out and we'll give you a bf estimate

do you have a set diet?

[HuntMan]

What is your training Experience? You don't think you can start taking steroids and get a gym membership someone and automatically learn how to workout and get big? Doesn't work like that. It takes years and years of research, diet, hard training, and proper knowledge before AAS is even considered.

[hellapimpin]

...sorry bro..you shouldnt use AS...

[taoros]

I just can't force down that much food. I could only make it work with protein powders and maybe weight gain powder in addition to the food I CAN force down.

I don't wanna get huge. Just a little bigger.

[stpete]

I'd look into your diet and workout routines before i did anything else. Those need to be on before juice can help.

[D7M]

They are NOT into body building and as you can see they are just doing a little to enhance themselves to look good and to do it the easy way. It works for what they need it for.

I am over 30 and I would like to do the same exact thing.

end of discussion.

[taoros]

I have been working out off and on and know how to do it. I can push myself hard, but I like to workout at home. I just want an edge for vanity's sake. Like I said, not looking for serious results. Just an edge. Pic can not do at the moment and tatts would give me away anyway but I have a 33" waist, so it aint bad.

[hellapimpin]

maybe a personal trainer would benefit you more...seriously man...a cycle at the point your at in experience with bodybuilding..would be a waste of money..you would go back to your normal size quickly.

[Big]

what does your workout routine look like?

[taoros]

Don't have a set routine mostly because I got frustrated with everything I tried. Don't laugh but I like my Soloflex and I mostly do bodyweight stuff on that as well as using my perfect pushups and dumbells. I am now going through the Scrawny to Brawny book and doing that. I really AM frustrated and I made up my mind about trying AS even if it's just for one cycle, just to see what happens.

[hellapimpin]

try out Pro-Hormones...cheaper, legal, a few really good ones can give awsome results.

Look up Methyl masterdrol

this probably won't be the popular choice..but its a better alternative for you..

And it will most likely give you that Edge your looking for

[taoros]

would pro-hormones make as much a difference as the roids my friends take does for them? They like it and they like whatever edge it gives them. Whatever they told me about it convinced me to try it.

[hellapimpin]

Eat alot, but clean..or as clean as you can get it

get some Creatine

Whey protein for extra meals between meals

Maybe a personal trainer to push you : )

....and possibly a prohormone....(i know guys..but its better then him regreting later that he took the plunge instead)

[hellapimpin]

i know guys who are used to taking Steroids..and have tried taking a few of the Really good prohormones..and still got similar to steroid results

[taoros]

hellapimpin as I said before I can eat clean and eat as much as I can manage to force down but my stomach can't handle that much food. I just can't do it. I get stuffed and I can't eat anymore even after three hours. I tried believe me. It ain't happening.

I DO take creatine, why protein, BCAAs and a few other supplements like L-Lysine, L-arginine, and lecithin. And a multi.

[taoros]

Can you PM me a list of the good pro hormones or post them if it's allowed?

[hellapimpin]

read up on b12

but yea...

Methyl masterdrol

havoc

halodrol

there are a few others..im sure some of our guys can name a few

[perry75K]

at the doses that you say your friends are taking you will see 10x more results from prohomrones.

[taoros]

So at 1ml, whatever they rave about is much ado about nothing? They love it and they are doing it just to get a little boost to their workout. (I know I said this before.)

So, when is it worth doing AS? And at their dose it's really not worth it? Sorry to ask so many questions.

[hellapimpin]

your friends are all going to fail later ...lol! simple as that .. they may feel like they have a little boost.. but with what i recommended..i think you would get better results...And Methyl masterdrol does give you that boost you speak of..ALPHA male Mentality

its not uncommon to hear people say they gained like 20lbs of muscle in like 6 weeks off of the stuff..no shit

[hellapimpin]

ughh..i feel like a spokesman...But just trying to lead you in the right direction...it will suit your needs 10x over..

But you also need to do your part in the gym buddy

[Nitro29]

Check into periactin if you are really having that much problem with appetitte. Until you get a halfway decent amount of food coming in everyday, as these guys have said over and over, you have nothing to fuel your gear with. Get the diet down first whatever it takes, then hit it bro.

[taoros]

Appreciate the gesture man, but what does it mean "fail later". As for methyl masterdrol... I just did a quick search for it and they are saying that it's really liver toxic and the companies stopped making it. What gives?

[hellapimpin]

its worth doing AS when you are nearing your peak potential and gains are harder and harder to optain. that is in a perfect world...But you shouldnt even consider them without having built up on your own with Sups, or naturally for some time.. you should already be in good shape before taking AS.

your liver should be fine...and when i say fail later..when your buddys decide to come off of the little "get buff" experiement.. they obviously don't know a whole lot about what they are doing, if they did, im sure they would have informed you with more info, and you wouldnt have felt the need to start this thread.. and PCT..if they know what that is... do they? well even after pct..sounds like your buds weren't into lifting a whole lot b4 this experiement..they will lose all their gains.. test levels will drop and they will probably feel like a girl for awhile.. alot of things bro..

but yest Methyl masterdro..the original superdrol was banned and made a schedule III steroid i think.. but their are many clones out there..Methyl masterdrol being one of them.. Liver toxicity is exagerated alot although it's good to run liver protection while on any oral type cycle..Milk thisle, cranberry extract..are what i mainly use, but their are boat loads of other things to take to help you. Compared to using actualy "GEar" the risk your taking is less..Even prohormones can shut you down..and you will have to run a PCT.. if you run an 8weeks cycle of Prohormones..I would recommend taking Nolva to get your Libido back up.

You really need to work on eating more, and hitting the gym more consistantly.. that will give you results quicker then any drug.

[taoros]

Ok, thanks guys. I'll try the pro hormone route with some Optimum Nutrition weight gainer but if I feel the need and have the chance to try the stack my friends are on I will do what they do just to see what happens.

But thanks for all the help, especially hellapimpin's. I will take your advice and like I said I give the PH route a chance.

Thanx again.