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    Winstrol and hairloss... is it really that bad??

    its amazing that the winstrol and anavar AAS ratings are almost identical but yet the majority consensus is that winny is horrible for hair... how is this possible and/is this just overhyped nonsense?

    * reason why i ask this question is because I finally have a legit anti-aging doctor who offers me any kind of test, deca , winstrol, hgh... I am very interested in adding the winstrol toward the end of my current cycle of Test P, VAR, NPP... (Ill use winny when i end var at week 6) but worried bout the hair loss...

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    Winny potentiated instantaneous hair loss for me, I will never touch the stuff again. Var will cause hair loss too, just slower. If you've got DHT sensitive hair follicles you're better off avoiding DHT based substances altogether. If you're one of the lucky ones and do not have the gene no amount of winny or var will cause you to shed. You won't know until you try.

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    recked my hair ..... got alopecia

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    damn it- ive read winny doesnt do that..... thats partly why im on it.... im already balding from finaplix many years ago. well now i gotta think of a plan b

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    Some people are more prone, I did notice some hair loss at a 100mg/day dose. I wont go that high again with winny now just for that reason.

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    ^ you need to research MPB. Stay away from DHT's (winny) and take DHT inhibitors for an extra step. This has been discussed a million times so use the search bar.

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    winny scalped my friend, i wouldnt go near it with a ten foot pole!!!!

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    I only had problems with the winny at the higher dose, I had no problems running 50mg ed but 100mg ed and I shed some hair fortunately not too much.

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    can hair loss be reversed, or just prevented? in other words, can anyone vouch for rogaine or any other products that claim to put hair back on? i could use some

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    This is all down to MPB, as winny doesn't convert to DHT although its a DHT derivative, IE, look at the males on your mothers side of the family, any receeding hairlines or balding will mean that you are prone.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Billytk03z View Post
    its amazing that the winstrol and anavar AAS ratings are almost identical but yet the majority consensus is that winny is horrible for hair... how is this possible and/is this just overhyped nonsense?

    * reason why i ask this question is because I finally have a legit anti-aging doctor who offers me any kind of test, deca, winstrol, hgh... I am very interested in adding the winstrol toward the end of my current cycle of Test P, VAR, NPP... (Ill use winny when i end var at week 6) but worried bout the hair loss...
    those ratings dont mean shit most of the time when you apply it to practical use. ex: winny has a high anabolic rating but will more than likely not put and ounce of extra muscle on you.

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    The hair loss is not always permanent I dont think it was on me but I only lost a few hairs lol so its hard to say but even losing a few is enough to make me not use a high dose again.

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    i ran it at 50mg a day and got alopeica, fecked me over... wont go near winni again .... eq,test with a 5a inhibiter,deca ,t-bol very limited choices mate

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    Well ya never know til you try... right? An example is that I can run test (test prop) with no problems whatsoever until I hit the 100mg ed thresh-hold then I start shedding all over the place.. but if I run test prop at 75mg or lower I have no shedding probs whatsover...

    I guess Ill start using winny at 25mg ed and take it from there... (on a side note I ran a Tren A cycle for 2 weeks before deciding on changin over to NPP instead for the rest of the cycle and I had shed not even one hair..) any way we'll see what happens...

    thanx for the input bros

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    i''m in my 3rd week of a winny only cycle right now and the only thing i can notice about my hair is its a little dry...with that said its definitley worth it i'm shredded all up and have 2 more weeks to go i'm thinking about adding 1 more week...also the way dht works on your hair it shrinks the follicle...you can always use some rogaine or anything with minoxodil in it to prevent that...that way you don't have to take finasteride or Dutasteride and limit your gains
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    Quote Originally Posted by kidrock29520 View Post
    ...also the way dht works on your hair it shrinks the follicle...you can always use some rogaine or anything with minoxodil in it to prevent that...that way you don't have to take finasteride or Dutasteride and limit your gains
    1. rogain or anythink like that will only prevent a certain amount of dht on the scalp area
    2.Fina & Duta do not effect your gains, if anything they could help aslong as used in conjunction with an anti - e

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    Quote Originally Posted by RoidBoid View Post
    1. rogain or anythink like that will only prevent a certain amount of dht on the scalp area
    2.Fina & Duta do not effect your gains, if anything they could help aslong as used in conjunction with an anti - e
    1 thats exactly what you want out of the rogaine you prevent your hair loss/hair thinning while your on a winny cycle rogaine will keep your follicles from shrinking

    2 seeing as how winny is a dht derived compound and fina and duta lower dht i would say they would limit gains...especially strength dht is important for strength gains
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    Quote Originally Posted by kidrock29520 View Post
    1 thats exactly what you want out of the rogaine you prevent your hair loss/hair thinning while your on a winny cycle rogaine will keep your follicles from shrinking

    2 seeing as how winny is a dht derived compound and fina and duta lower dht i would say they would limit gains...especially strength dht is important for strength gains

    Fyi bros.... Propecia/Finasteride will do nothing to inhibit DHT related sides when running DHT compounds... Winny, VAR, etc.. are already 5ar reduced, meaning that its already a DHT hormone... Prop/Fin are compounds that prevent testosterone from turning into DHT... If your running a test only cycle then Prop/Fin is an option to help, but I repeat it will do nothing for gear that is already 5ar reduced...

    Rogaine... will not prevent or stop DHT from attacking hair follicles, all it will do is prolong the hair growth cycle that would other wise be cut short naturally by regular shedding/natural growth phase and/or gear induced shedding.

    Nizoral... is actually an anti-fungus drug that has dht reducing properties.. but I honestly believe to have any real benefit using nizoral while on cycle you need to use Nizoral 2% (which is a prescription stregnth compound). I suggest using Nizoral 2% eod (ed if you can tolerate the dryness), lather on head and let soak for 5 minutes or longer and rinse...

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    Quote Originally Posted by RoidBoid View Post
    i ran it at 50mg a day and got alopeica, fecked me over... wont go near winni again .... eq,test with a 5a inhibiter,deca,t-bol very limited choices mate

    Hey bro, what do you mean by that? EQ, test with 5a inhibiter or Deca , t-bol are the only cycles you do? the only cycles that wont cause your hair to fall out, or are cycles that are also linked to hairloss?

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    He means that those are the safest hair options. Remember though that you cannot use finasteride with Deca as it will increase the hair loss because it won't convert it to it's less androgenic 5 ar reduced form...IMO that leaves Deca out of the equation unless you like not being able to get it up. Deca without test was a no no for me....and most. If you are sensitive to hairloss then I wouldn't touch test without finasteride. You should also be using a topical anti-androgen such as spironolactone solution along with the minoxidil. Hairloss sucks!!!

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    Just cause the hairloss topic poped up. Does EQ or Sust 250 lead to hairloss. Other than usual DHT conversion like any other roid, do these 2 have more effect like winny?

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    finasteride..

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    Quote Originally Posted by irongamer View Post
    He means that those are the safest hair options. Remember though that you cannot use finasteride with Deca as it will increase the hair loss because it won't convert it to it's less androgenic 5 ar reduced form...IMO that leaves Deca out of the equation unless you like not being able to get it up. Deca without test was a no no for me....and most. If you are sensitive to hairloss then I wouldn't touch test without finasteride. You should also be using a topical anti-androgen such as spironolactone solution along with the minoxidil. Hairloss sucks!!!


    not true. test,deca and finasteride is a good combo. the fact that you cant use fina with test and deca is a myth

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    Quote Originally Posted by sitries View Post
    not true. test,deca and finasteride is a good combo. the fact that you cant use fina with test and deca is a myth
    agreed

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