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    1st Cycle - Looking for some good advice

    Im 22 years old.
    Weigh 88kgs or about 190 pounds and im 6'3"
    I have very little fat and any weight i do put on is generally muscle.
    I have been training for 2yrs and put on 16kgs so far or about 35 pounds

    Im looking to do a mass building cycle and have the following ready for a cycle and am wondering what the best way to take it would be:


    10ml's of sus 250 in 1ml vials
    10ml's of deca 50mg in 1ml vials
    10ml's of test enth in a 10ml vial
    10ml's of deca 250 in a 10ml vial

    I also have nolva for PCT
    Im not bothered if i dont use all the gear in my cycle and was wondering what would be the best way to do the cycle?

    I dont want to inject any more than twice a week.

    Im looking to run for about 10-12 weeks

    Any advice would be much appreciated.
    Last edited by lukejabs; 02-22-2009 at 07:41 PM.

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    would it be possible for you to put something together with what you have .. then let us take a look

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    What's your body fat%

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    Can you get more gear easy at all?

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    You could run the Test E then switch to the sus 250 and get pretty close to a 10 week cycle with what you have on hand.

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    think id run the sust first and then go to the enanthate .. try and take advantage of the short esters in the sust the first few weeks..

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    Wont that leave him with a "gap" in the middle when the sus wears off prior to the Test E kicking in?

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    Either way its not optimal, was just trying to answer his question.

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    Quote Originally Posted by johnnybigguns View Post
    Can you get more gear easy at all?
    Yes I can get more quite easily, but its expensive

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    This is what I have put together so far...

    Week 1-10
    Monday - 1ml sus, 1ml deca 50,
    Thurs - 1ml test e, 1ml deca 250

    Any critique will be appreciated!

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    nah bro.. no good

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    first cycle leave the deca alone

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    ^^ yep. keep reading bro, kinda off with your cycle proposal there.

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    ya that is horrible.

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    what i'm wondering is why you want to jump on cycle already?

    you've gained 35lbs in two years, that's really good natural bro, i'm lucky if i gain 10-15lbs clean in a year

    i don't think you should cycle yet, give your body some time and train a few more years, i bet with a good diet you could put on another 20-25lbs in the next couple years natural if you train your ass off, then you would be much better off and ready to start a good cycle

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    Cycle Proposal

    Any advice on how to use this gear most effectively will be appreciated...
    I have done a lot of reading in the forums and have put this together:

    Week 1-10
    Mon - test e 0.5ml
    Thurs - test e 0.5ml

    Week 3-8
    Mon - sus 250 1ml
    Thurs - sus 250 1ml

    Week 1-7
    Mon - Deca 250 0.75ml
    Thurs - Deca 250 0.75ml

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    mg/ml would be helpful.

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    all 250mg/ml

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    if you can get more gear, then why are you wanting to mix your tests?

    you said you don't want to inject more than twice a week, but sust should be shot EOD to keep blood levels more stable

    First cycle, I would stick to a single ester test ONLY so you can see how your body reacts to it. adding different compounds in the first cycle, you won't know what is doing what to your body, both good or bad

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    for the test, bump those .5 mls for wks1-10 up to 1mls, to get 500mg/wk.
    for the deca , do the same, 2x1ml per wk, for 500mg/wk. so youl have to get another 10ml deca 250mg/ml-which is for the best as you reckon its moody gear anyway

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    Quote Originally Posted by Phate View Post
    what i'm wondering is why you want to jump on cycle already?

    you've gained 35lbs in two years, that's really good natural bro, i'm lucky if i gain 10-15lbs clean in a year

    i don't think you should cycle yet, give your body some time and train a few more years, i bet with a good diet you could put on another 20-25lbs in the next couple years natural if you train your ass off, then you would be much better off and ready to start a good cycle
    There is your answer^^^ follow that advice IMHO.

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    I will try and swap/sell my sus 250 and try and get some more test e

    Thanks for the advice

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    Quote Originally Posted by marcus300 View Post
    There is your answer^^^ follow that advice IMHO.
    i don't think he likes my advice marcus, oh well

    best of luck to you luke

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    I have my sus 250 and deca 50 sold...

    Will be investing in 10 test e 1ml vials and running 500mg of test e for 10weeks as well as 300mg deca for 8 weeks.

    Thanks for the advice

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    alrighty then.. better than it was
    id try and get some clomid to add to that nolvadex for pct.

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    deca 8 weeks?

    Good luck

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