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  1. 02-21-2009, 10:10 PM #1
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    Jump Higher - Cycle

    Whats up guys...

    I was doing a Vertical Jump Program a few months ago, but i had to stop because i was too busy with school...Now i have more time to workout...

    Height:     6'2
    Weight: 200
    Body type: Muscular/Cut
    Objective: 5 inches in 6 weeks

    I'll do this 2 or 3 times a week during 6 weeks then i'll switch to pylo exercises...

    Squat: 5x5
    Leg press: 5x5
    Calf press: 5x5
    Ham Curl: 5x5
    Dead lift: 5x5

    I plan on using Winstrol + Trenbolone Acetate to help me with my gains (small dosage)...I know that there is risks for my natural test, but its a risk im willing to take...

    For the formers athletes, do you think that these two steroids will influence my jump a lot? Because i know a coach and he told me that i will get great results...But if you know a better steroid that gives athletes great results, let me know...

    And feel free to comment about my little strength program...

    Thanks
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  2. 02-21-2009, 10:23 PM #2
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    Your gunna need to run test with it for one.
    How old are you
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  3. 02-21-2009, 10:33 PM #3
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    Quote Originally Posted by johnnybigguns View Post
    Your gunna need to run test with it for one.
    How old are you
    22 Years old...Thanks
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  4. 02-21-2009, 10:39 PM #4
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    Your still alittle young I wouldn't jump in if I were you.
    Jump training is the only real thing that is gunna help
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  5. 02-21-2009, 10:46 PM #5
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    Quote Originally Posted by johnnybigguns View Post
    Your still alittle young I wouldn't jump in if I were you.
    Jump training is the only real thing that is gunna help
    Yes i know that im a little young...But i will use small a small dosage for a short amount of time...I will play in college next year, so i just have a few months to get the best shape...I hope you understand...
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  6. 02-21-2009, 10:49 PM #6
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    you should look into some kind of jump training.
    You'll have to do it either way.
    Just taking a steroid isn't gunna make you jump higher
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  7. 02-21-2009, 10:55 PM #7
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    Quote Originally Posted by johnnybigguns View Post
    you should look into some kind of jump training.
    You'll have to do it either way.
    Just taking a steroid isn't gunna make you jump higher
    Ohh yah i know...Im working in my lower body strength in the gym 3 times a week and i'll switch to pylo exercises when i stop getting gains...
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  8. 02-21-2009, 10:58 PM #8
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    Then I'd get some test prop and take everything at a moderate dose. Taking small doses without test, I doubt you'd see results that were much if any better than just being natural. Plus you won't be able to get a hard on.

    Especially being young (22) you should not have a problem increasing your vertical naturally first. THEN once you reach your genetic potential for jumping you COULD take AAS. But that opens up another can of worms. AAS is banned in college sports. Are you a liar? A cheater? POST your diet. Nothing is more important than that. Here's some reading for you.

    http://library.crossfit.com/free/pdf...ue21_May04.pdf
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  9. 02-21-2009, 11:00 PM #9
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    And buy these...

    http://secure.monkeybargym.com/cart/...&products_id=6

    http://secure.monkeybargym.com/cart/...products_id=12
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  10. 02-21-2009, 11:07 PM #10
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jenseno9 View Post
    Then I'd get some test prop and take everything at a moderate dose. Taking small doses without test, i doubt you'd see results that were much if any better than just being natural. Plus you won't be able to get a hard on. Especially being young (22) you should not have a problem. POST your diet. Nothing is more important than that. Here's some reading for you.

    http://library.crossfit.com/free/pdf...ue21_May04.pdf
    Ok so i should add test prop to my two roids right???

    My diet is not that good, but at least i can follow it every day...(It costs a lot of $$$)

    Mourning: 4 Eggs, bread, milk, cheese
    Break: Chocolate Milk, toast with chease, fruits, protein bar
    Lunch: 1/2 Chicken or Spaghetti with meat + Juice and fruits
    Break: Tuna, Juice, protein bar
    Dinner: Boiled potatoes, 1/4 chicken, rice, chocolat milk
    Before bed: Protein Shake (two spoons)
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    No steroids try the proper training first
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  12. 02-21-2009, 11:24 PM #12
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    Quote Originally Posted by johnnybigguns View Post
    No steroids try the proper training first
    Im doing a proper vertical training already (Jumping and bulking is not the same)
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  13. 02-21-2009, 11:46 PM #13
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    OK your diet needs a lot of work. You need to make better choices. Heres another read then re work your diet and post again. Why take steroids if your diet is spot on? I know AAS is really exciting and new and everything but it is definitely something you do not need.

    http://www.earth360.com/diet_paleodiet_balzer.html
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    and if you go ahead and do it anyway don't think winstrol would be the best choice implemented with a program on jumping higher...... Read the profile here and you'll see why
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    ie winstrol can be hard on your ligaments right Reed?
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  16. 02-22-2009, 12:05 AM #16
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    Quote Originally Posted by Reed View Post
    and if you go ahead and do it anyway don't think winstrol would be the best choice implemented with a program on jumping higher...... Read the profile here and you'll see why
    Are you talking about the side effects on ligaments? If so, well i'll use it for a short term...If its not your point, well let me know what it is...

    And yes i'll work on my diet a lot because its really basic...

    Thanks guys
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    Yes. I wouldn't even try it with a jumping program.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Reed View Post
    Yes. I wouldn't even try it with a jumping program.
    Yah i should think again for Winstrol ...Its tru that if i lift huge weights with my legs with weak ligaments, it can hurts...Thanks for the advice...
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  19. 02-22-2009, 12:33 AM #19
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    MADD I'm glad your taking everyones advice. I can't even tell you how many people come on here for advice and then just do what they had already planned. Nutrition and intensity is all you need at your age and mine as well I'm only 25.
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  20. 02-22-2009, 12:52 AM #20
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jenseno9 View Post
    MADD I'm glad your taking everyones advice. I can't even tell you how many people come on here for advice and then just do what they had already planned. Nutrition and intensity is all you need at your age and mine as well I'm only 25.
    Haha, well I'm a responsible guy...I do a lot of research and take advices for more experienced users to get my conclusions, that's the reason why i joined this forum...And yeah 25 years old is not old at all...
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    you should get urself some PF Flyer's
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