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    First injection First Cycle

    Whats up guys.

    I stuck myself for the first time last night, here is what i did.

    300mgs Test E
    200mgs Deca

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    18-22% B.F.

    I have access to Dbol , should I get it or just stick to what I am using.

    I will bump the test to 400mgs next week and 500mgs thereafter,

    going to go for 15 week cycle.

    what you think.

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    I prefer one compound only for a first cycle, I wouldn't add a third.

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    u should read before sticking compounds in your body, for a start your bf% is too high for AAS, and why deca in first cycle, should be test only! and i bet you dont know what pct is right?

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    ok great, that was my biggest question as i have read up on so many different site about first cycle front loading or not. I decided not to and was having second thoughts as i am excited.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Big View Post
    I prefer one compound only for a first cycle, I wouldn't add a third.


    ^^^ agreed - i also prefer not raising dosages up ...or pyramiding - i just keep dosage consistent - jmo...

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    I do know what PCT is i have been reading up for several months. I am going to run novladex on my last 5 weeks.

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    dont change or front-load compounds until your an experienced user IMO .... look at it this way, your body hasn't seen this compound before, the standard amount is gonna muck your hormones up and u need to see how they react to each compound, if your doubling your risking serious sides, and for a first cycle you would be a fool if you front-load

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    so bump the dosage to 500 next week and keep it there?... what type of suppliments would you reccommend while on...

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    i wanted to run deca with the test for the added joint benifits.

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    Quote Originally Posted by laloyal View Post
    I do know what PCT is i have been reading up for several months. I am going to run novladex on my last 5 weeks.

    if you had been reading for several months you would know how to cycle and if your read, and your not ready as your BF is high, you should run test only, do you relise how many people like you think more compounds are better, wrong!!! u wnt to get big quick so try and get every compound possible in there you can get hold of, test is first cycle, all you would need

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    i prefer test only first cycle - but if u are gonna do a second injectable (which u obviously are since u started)- low dose deca - basically for joint relief - isnt THAT bad.... JMO....

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    Quote Originally Posted by RoidBoid View Post
    if you had been reading for several months you would know how to cycle and if your read, and your not ready as your BF is high, you should run test only, do you relise how many people like you think more compounds are better, wrong!!! u wnt to get big quick so try and get every compound possible in there you can get hold of, test is first cycle, all you would need
    I agree with everything you have said roidboid - HOWEVER - water under the bridge ...hes started - he isnt stopping - i commend you for stating what needed to be stated - i think at this point we need to just try and make sure he does the best with what he has started - JMO...

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    Im just bored of same old now, i think im gonna cut down my use on here as its stressful reading things like this .....

    if your gonna carry on id have better pct , run test at 400 or 500mg and the deca at a low dose,

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    I appreciate the advice and i was only going to run test, i started with a smaller dose of it as i agree i wanted to see how my body reacted on the first week, then would bumo up the test to the 500mgs/wk. i did simply add the deca for the joints.

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    for my pct which is a while away, i was told that hcg is tough to come by and that there is a similar natural product available. do you know anything about that?...

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    whats done is done, you need to think about your pct now .. id stick the test levels at a stable level of 500mg per week split 2x weekly if i were you, what is your goal? mass or lean gain?

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    just do this imo -
    500mg/test / week (inj 250 mon & 250 thurs) the next 14 weeks
    200mg deca / week (if u feel u need to do that - inj 1x week) - the next 13 weeks
    pct 2 weeks after last test injection -
    week 1 - 100mg clomid/day - 40mg nolva /day
    week2-4 50mg clomid/day - 20mg nolva / day

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    Your body wouldn't react within of a week with Test E. You won't even start seeing results (if any with your bf%) until week six. Just keep it at 500mg/week. Get some clomid to add to your PCT. Nolva 40/40/20/20 Clomid 50/50/50/50. Check your body often throughout your cylce to check for unwanted side effects. Watch for gyno.

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    i wouldnt run hcg for your pct. just use clomid and nolvadex . just some advice, have all this straightened out b4 u start your cycle. ive made this mistake in the past

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    also my BF could be a bit less than what i stated, i used to be a firefighter and have been working out for quite some time. i simply would have rather stated my BF over what it may be as i think most peopl lie and state thiers is less than what it is. i go to the gym mon, tues, thur, fri every week. i am hoping to gain mass and get up to 200lbs that i can keep once pct is complete.

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    I run 2.5 miles in 23 minutes and keep a steady pace between 5.5 - 8.0 on the tread mill, i do this 4 time a week.

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    imma get exact bf tomorrow as i work out at a place called spectum and a former mr olympia i have been talking to worksa out there as well.

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    should be aiming for 8minute miles minimum, thats what im told for a tick over when my season is over ....

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    ok i just did this and appologies for the mis information.

    largest part of waist including stomoach circumferance, 36in

    17 inches wide waist

    forearm 8 inches

    wrist 4 inches

    my bf on this onlie test came out 9% bf

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    You have 9% body fat.

    You have 16.7 Pounds of fat and 168.3 Pounds of lean (muscle, bone, body water).

    that is what it said.

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    sorry for the delay, my girlfriend wanted to sit on her ride. cardio baby!!!

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    I know i should already know this but i honestly dont know this part as these suppliments i can buy at vitamin shoppe. what should i be taking while on cycle... like liver stuff, amino acids?... glutamines

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    online tests for bf are crap, u need to get it done properly, also you will need 1g a day of milk thisle for liver, but i would only do that if your stupid enough to chuck the d-bol in

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    Quote Originally Posted by laloyal View Post
    Whats up guys.

    I stuck myself for the first time last night, here is what i did.

    300mgs Test E
    200mgs Deca

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    180
    18-22% B.F.

    I have access to Dbol , should I get it or just stick to what I am using.

    I will bump the test to 400mgs next week and 500mgs thereafter,

    going to go for 15 week cycle.

    what you think.
    Looks pretty good man, dont think you should add the dbol since youre a first timer. just thought your BF is a bit too high. Make sure you work on your doubts now early into the cycle before it is too late to change anything.

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