Fina Help

[Dglover000]

I know that talking about fina as well as any other juice can be a touchy subject. So for the sake of this post lets assume that I am a cow that is about 6'2 and weighs about 215 and has been doing weight training for approx. 1.5 yrs and am the ripe old age of 21. I have lost alot of weight and put on alot of lean mass, but now am starting to see my gains subside, i would like to continue muscle gains. I have heard from several people that fina is what i should take and thats what im leaning towards, however some people recomend decca. As far as gains and retention what is supperior, and if I take fina what should be supplemented with it, aside from the standard protien and other work out suppliments, and how severe if any can the side effects be? Thanks for any help you can provide.

[landshark]

use tren , add test, get bromo and nolva for any sides and clomid post cycle. Oh, and CLICK HERE

[Dglover000]

I appreciate the help, but once again i am all new to this stuff, i have browsed the board and searched around some and found some interesting stuff. However I also find that there is a steep learning curve, i appreciate the help, however if it wouldnt take you years I would appreciate a small explanation of the supplements listed above, I.E. how they affect the cycle and their side effects and any precautions that should/can be taken. Also whats the down side to just taking the fina with no additional suppliments. Once again thanks for your help.

[landshark]

You really need to do alot more research before you dive in to this...I know thats not what you want to hear, but it will be WELL worth it in the long run, I promise you. Do a search on tren , it is an excellent drug when stacked and dosed properly.

[landshark]

Oh what the hell, I'm bored. This was originally posted on this board by Getting Stupid.


Everything you ever wanted to know about FINA -
Originally posted by "The Almighty" over at BBExtreme. THought I'd share it here, as it's a GREAT read. Enjoy.
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As you can tell by reading the boards every day, Fina is obviously one of the most popular "supplements" in the bodybuilding community today, and for all the right reasons.

I am writing this post due to the obscene amount of private messages I have recieved recently and the even larger number of posts on the subject of Fina. I am sure many of you have read Huck's AWESOME thread entitled "The Power Of Trenbolone ." That thread was very scientific to say the least, so I am taking it upon myself to write out a condensed version of that thread in lamens terms. I will attempt to cover every aspect that has been talked about recently...if I miss something than people like Huck, Fonz, Zyg, and (even though I despise him greatly) TxShortPenis to chime in, along with anyone else who has questions or other various points. Here goes....


Fina is considered by many, including myself obviously, to be
The Gear of the Gods. Those who have not had the pleasure of experiencing the joy that is fina seem to be in the minority these days. Fina is cheap, safe, and extremely effective.

What is it?

Fina (whos scientific name is Trenbolone ) is a derivative of the chemical nandrolone . Tren does not convert to estrogen, so supplementing with anastrozole, lestrozole, or any of those popular compounds will do no good combatting the gyno that may be caused by using Tren, but we will get to that later.

To quote Huck, " [Tren] is the strongest androgen receptor binder on the planet. " This in itself is amazing considering it is a derivative of a compound that is far less androgenic . If you read Huck's post (now in the Best of Elite Fitness forum) you will see a scientific study that shows how Tren is three times as anabolic as testosterone , while being doubly as anabolic.

Tren is commonly used in cattle. Farmers inject Tren into their cows in the months leading up to their slaughter to rapidly increase lean weight gain, which makes for some yummy steaks.

Where can I get it?

Capitalizing on the fina frenzy, sources began producing their own home-made trenbolone and put them on the market. Ttokkyo was the first actual company to produce trenbolone for human use. Needless to say, the prices were and still can be outrageous.

What are we to do then? Well make your own you lazy bastard! Fina pellets can be purchased legally from any vet store. Best bet is to visit an online vet store and look for either their Finaplix -H or Component T-H, which IS fina, just more of it. These are usually priced at around $50 and $75, respectively.

Unless you have the brain capacity of llama (Mustang_18 ) you will immediately realize that using an implant gun to shoot these fina pellets into your body is a painful and unneccesary experience. There are in fact a few safer and less excrutiating method to experience the power that is fina:

Orally: It seems that some have attempted to place the fina pellets under their toungue until dissolved. Aside from being about as tasty as TxShortpenis' loose anus, this method will yield minimal results, if any at all.

DMSO Method: Basically, this consists of crushing up the pellets and adding them to a topical delivery system. You then rub the composite onto your body in various places (behind the knees, for example). This will yield better results than the previous method, however the results may not be spectacular, and you will smell like trenbolone 24/7, which will not make you that popular with the ladies.

Injections: In my opinion, and the opinion of many others, this is the ONLY way to use fina. I know you are probably asking, "Hey Almighty you ignorant piece of shit! How the fuck would you go about injecting something in pellet form?" Listen here, shitheads, you can purchase a kit to make the transformation from pellet form to liquid form.

The main concern when this method is brought up is,
"Hey, Almighty. Im no chemist you insensitive prick. What am I to do?" First of all, you got a real bad attitude son. Second, I am the farthest thing from a chemist. Making fina is easier than baking a cake, and no I am not joking. All kits come with step-by-step instructions on how to convert your fina. The entire process can take anywhere between 2 hours to 12 hours. The majority of this time is waiting for the pellets to dissolve in the oil that is supplied via the kit that you purchase. If you want to look at a great site that has pictures of this process, simply go to http://www.elitefitness.com/members/finaplix/
The kits give out a 75mg/ml concentration of the golden goodness. Of course, you can alter this by changing the amount of solution you use, but 75mg is typically the standard dose.

One more small thing...for best results, due to its short half-life, fina must be injected at least every other day (EOD). For OPTIMAL results, every day (ED) injections are encouraged. This is what intimidates many of those who are interested in using fina. Take it from me and the countless numbers of those who have used fina...the ED/EOD injections are not a problem at all. You get used to them in a short amount of time, and do not want to stop doing them once you see the phenominal results. I know that your asses are probably getting sore thinking about all of those injections, but fear not. Fina is great for site injections. I inject into my bis, tris, delts, and pecs with no fuss, no muss.

How should I use Fina?

As I stated above, the standard dose of fina is usually 75mg. While in 95% of people this dose results in little sides and great results, many people opt for 37.5mg (1/2 ml) every day.

Fina kicks in very rapidly (many notice results within the first week) so the standard 10 week cycle is not necessary. Fina is a great addition to a 10-12 week cycle consisting of test, eq, primo, etc. I advise adding fina at the end of the cycle, the last 5-6 weeks perhaps. Be sure to extend the fina past the rest of the cycle if you are using compounds that take longer to clear your system (e.g. sustanon /omnadren , eq, deca ). This way, you can start your post-cycle therapy directly following your last dose of fina.

If all else fails, a 6 week fina cycle never lets anyone down. Combine fina with other fast acting compounds such as test prop or winny and you have yourself one helluva cycle with a minimum cost. Using myself as an example, in 6 weeks of using fina @ 75mg/ed and winny @ 50mg/ed I gained 22 pounds and lost 2% bodyfat. Not bad for 6 weeks, huh?

Should I use Fina to Bulk or Cut?

Due to the fact that God himself was on fina when he created the world in 7 days, fina is great for either. Fina is extremely anti-catabolic which makes it the drug of choice for cutting. People report an actual increase in weight while their bodyfat drops. Fina is renound for its ability to transform your physique.

For bulking, well just add some test, dbol , or any of your other favorite bulking supplements and watch the weight and strength pile on while experiencing little or no increase in bodyfat.

Is Fina Dangerous?

In my opinion, the horror stories you hear about fina are extremely overdone. Fonz ran fina for more than 20 weeks....20 fucking weeks and reported no problems whatsoever. All you have to do is to do your homework, take the necessary precautions for the liver and kidneys (ALA and 2 gallons of water every day, respectively) and chances are you will be good to go, as long as the dose is reasonable.

By the way, the sides of fina are pretty much the same as all other steroids , such as acne, hair loss, etc. Fina does seem to cause an increase in aggression in some people. Of course, as long as you have at least a minimal amount of will power, this aggression can be contained and expelled only in the gym during a greuling workout.

Now, what about gyno? Ask anyone around and you will see that, although it can happen, gyno from fina is quite rare. Arimidex , etc will not prevent gyno from fina, so if you are truely paranoid, simply supplement with 50mg of winny EOD.

If you are like me, you may get a slight case of gyno after the cycle has ended. Many seem to think that this may be prolactin induced. This gyno can, 99% of the time, be easily cured by supplementing with 1 gram of vitex (chaste berry) every day until the symptoms dissapear. In my case, it took only a few weeks.

Is fina adequate for someone doing their first cycle? Yes and no. I feel that if you have done your homework, fina will work quite well with a lack of sides as long as you are smart and keep an eye on what you are doing. Keep in mind, however, that fina is very strong and, like all other steroids, may not be for everyone. I know that the frequency of injections can deter many from using fina in their first cycle. If you can go along with it, however, I assure you that the results will be like nothing you have ever experienced before.


Thats pretty much it gentlemen. It took me only about an hour to write this, so I may have left some things out. As I said above, feel free to add or subract anything you see fit. Happy Growing.

[Dglover000]

My diet is pretty spot on, about a year ago i put off 60 pounds by dieting and by working out hard (not starving myself) i have since maintained a healty diet, and kept my weight right around 215. I do appreciate you helping me with this and am trying to look in to it as much as possible, however any hep from a experienced user is greatly appreciated. I work out 5-6 days a week usually 4-5 days with weights and 1 day of cardio with another day of combined weight/cardio. I train with a personal trainer and have a fairly solid routine and have seen good gains. However i have noticed slowing gains and wish to keep up a good pace for my strength training routine. With this additional info in mind any additional direction you can provide is greatly appreciated, ill be doing the search on tren right now. Thanks.

[landshark]

Have you tried switching up your routines? That can make an impressive difference. Also, nice job on the 60 lb. weight loss. I assume you were doing cardio more frequently then, correct?

[Dglover000]

This has cleared up alot of my questions. Thanks for your help. With all this in mind ill continue my research, however the compunds you listed as good supplimets are they as easily available as the fina that farmer john will give me (seeing as how im a cow and all)?

[Dglover000]

Yeah i was doing cardio about 5-6 times a week for 45 mins, usually on an eliptical. I want to keep gaining because I enjoy this healty lifestyle more and I feel better when I work out. It sure is nice to have another 60 lbs off my back, obdiously im not trying to compete in any shows or anything, but keeping steady gains help me want to continue going to the gym.

[landshark]

You are going to need to find a good source for the test and bromo (which I cannot help you with). Some places sell clomid and nolva in liquid suspensions (for research purposes only of course), however they cannot be posted on this board.

However, like I said before, research these drugs before you even think of administering them to your cattle, as none of them will do you any good if used incorrectly. Good luck.

[Dglover000]

Thanks your replies have cleared up alot of questions I had about this stuff, and givcen me a good start towards some research. I cant personally thank you enough for your time. You deserve a cookie or some recognition or something, once again thanks thanks thanks.

[landshark]

lol, you're welcome.

[daman1]

You deserve a cookie or some recognition or something.

make mine sugar with the m&m pieces =)