Looking to Bulk?

[FreakofNature23]

I get tested in august . and if i start now on a cycle of test e and end in may it gives me 3 1/2 months , people on the board said its borderline and i should go with test prop . but i want to bulk , test prop is use for cutting right and you cant bulk with it ?

[seriousmass]

lol.

you can definitely use prop to bulk. it's still testostrone; it's just a shorter ester. many combine prop with a cutting compound... but on it's own it can still produce good muscle gains / mass gains.

if you're afraid of getting tested again you should go with test-suspension... but it sucks, and is gunna hurt though..

[johnnybigguns]

You can technically cut or bulk on any compound its your diet. If your worried about detection times I would go prop

[FreakofNature23]

yea test prop should be good for me because its only a 2 week detection time ? ...whats a good cycle for test prop i should do ? ..

[seriousmass]

8 - 10 weeks long. 70mg each day.

plain and simple.

[binsser]

yeah thats good i done 75 ed for 8 weeks and it worked really well just remember to get ur pct in check bud so u keep ur gains!

hope this helps m8!

oh and sry m8 but u can bulk very well with prop !

[FreakofNature23]

thanks alot guys , is prop generally more expensive then enth ?

[Mammon]

well.. not per vial/amp.. but you need to have more.. so it can be..

[johnnybigguns]

What compounds have you ran before?

[FreakofNature23]

ran my first cycle with test e 500mg a week , and dbol 40mg a day

[johnnybigguns]

well all these are under 2 months primo/winni/var/dbol and drol

[seriousmass]

ran my first cycle with test e 500mg a week , and dbol 40mg a day

good first cycle.

with prop make sure you rotate ALL the injection sites. you want to avoid scar tissue build up, since you'll be injecting a lot over the course of ~8 weeks

[FreakofNature23]

i thinned about on the first cycle without ant inhibitors , now i got niz and dut. for this test cycle . i think im going to get some var also to go with my prop .

[marcus300]

Just stick with test only, prop will be best choice due to your testing time, bulk via diet

[FreakofNature23]

oh k i only gained 8 on my last test e cycle , hopefully this cycle will be better alot of people like prop .. how many pounds can i expect.

[marcus300]

oh k i only gained 8 on my last test e cycle , hopefully this cycle will be better alot of people like prop .. how many pounds can i expect.

Depends on your diet, everyone is different but Prop is stronger due to the ester weight than Test E so you will be fine, just eat eat eat

[Mammon]

who can say..to many variables..

[FreakofNature23]

anyone have a good bulking diet , i can follow ?

[johnnybigguns]

Check out the diet forum in here theres good info there.

[FreakofNature23]

so my 2nd cycle should be just test prop for 8 weeks thats it ?? .i should get good gains with that ? .. i wanted to do var with it .. i want to gain some bulk this winter then cut down for the season .

[Mammon]

if you want to run the var run it.. id run it the whole time.
maybe run dbol instead the first 4-5 weeks..
your call

[FreakofNature23]

yeh i ran dbol my first cycle last offseason and it was good . .but i thinned out on top , so thats why i decided not to run it this time ..and use the var maybe instead

[Mammon]

how about tbol

[FreakofNature23]

you think tbol would be better then var , i heard there almost identical .. except tbol is cheaper in price .

[Mammon]

tbol is about the same as dbol without the bloat..
think with tbol more size could be achieved than with using var.. if that is the goal