Nolvadex dosage?

[garu67]

First cycle taking 125mg sustanon eod. My nipples have been sore last couple of days so I started taking Nolvadex today at 20mg, should I continue to use 20mg a day for rest of cycle or higher dosage until the soreness goes away? I am 6 weeks in of a 12 week cycle.

[afigs052377]

i would get some Ldex for lion

["Maximus"]

Continue the Nolva course at 20mg (yes it's going to hinder gains a bit but no big deal when gyno symptoms arise). What do you have for PCT, besides Nolva? Get some letrozole and keep on the side in case you do really need it. No need for the adex, as that won't do much to help supress the estrogen levels at the moment; instead try to get letro asap. Don't stop the cycle either; just keep the nolva and get letro and do a strong PCT.. Nolva/Clomid/Aromasin or Proviron (if can't get aromasin).

[Mammon]

if i KNOW i have symptoms i run it at 40 or so until symptoms subside.. then continue at 20mg for remainder of cycle.

["Maximus"]

40mg I think is too supresive (I think, I don't know in OPs case) and I don't think it will get the gyno symptoms under control.. most likely the OPs BF could be contributing to his gyno flare up... however, I would get the letrozole to combat that if the sore nips don't go away in a week or so.

["Maximus"]

or actually, I must admit, much sooner than in just a week!

["Maximus"]

At the OP, please provide stats... Body Fat percentages, Diet, Exercise History, Goals, Age, etc. You did mention this is your first cycle, so provide us with some, more specific, stats please.

[jimmyinkedup]

im a bit confused about the nolvadex = supressive comment. Letro will not provide immedaite prevention / protection - nolva will. Id take nolva at 40/day and piggyback it with letrozole ....id drop the nolva after 2 weeks when the letro has kicked in ....jmo.....

["Maximus"]

Never mind, I just looked up your stats on your previous thread!

19%-20% BF, most logical reason why the gyno on you... keep the Nolva and get some letro.. I feel more inclined now to tell you to stop the cycle if gyno symptoms don't get better within a course of a week or so. Your cycle could be a waste without proper dieting and exercise habits. Also, you need to get better informed when dealing with AAS, especially in devising a strong plan b in case gyno becomes an issue.

[garu67]

I am 41 years old working out 25 years bf% 19-20? Goals are size and strenght. My PCT plan was nolva/clomid. I was taking only 250mg a week of sustanon the first 5 weeks but after reading up on this forum I thought that 250mg was a little low and I should be taking shots eod so i stepped up the cycle last week and now I have the soreness.

["Maximus"]

im a bit confused about the nolvadex = supressive comment. Letro will not provide immedaite prevention / protection - nolva will. Id take nolva at 40/day and piggyback it with letrozole ....id drop the nolva after 2 weeks when the letro has kicked in ....jmo.....

Nolva will block your estrogen receptors, but you have to build that up in matters of days and actually 1+ week; letro will supress gyno almost immediatedly after you begin using it (3 or 4th day) but with the added benefit of estro production resuming rather fast after you stop usage.

["Maximus"]

I am 41 years old working out 25 years bf% 19-20? Goals are size and strenght. My PCT plan was nolva/clomid. I was taking only 250mg a week of sustanon the first 5 weeks but after reading up on this forum I thought that 250mg was a little low and I should be taking shots eod so i stepped up the cycle last week and now I have the soreness.

So you don't even know your BF composition? Anything above 12% is considered high risk ground for many bad sides, including gyno. Either combat the gyno by continued use of Nolva/Letro or stop cycle completely is it becomes out of hand and start proper PCT. Do get the letro though and do it asap.

[jimmyinkedup]

^^^ the added benefit of estrogen rebound???? ...... which needs to be controlled with a pct protocol including serms.... which will block receptor while body disposes of excess circulating estrogen.....
I dunno - i stand by my advice - estrogen blocked in 2 days with nolva plus letro in the mix as well. Letro will suppress aromtization - but do nothing for existing circulating estrogen. By blocking the receptor with nolva and using letro ....you can jump on the issue immediately....
Im still confused by the nolva too suppressive comment .....
Anyway - JMO.....

["Maximus"]

250mg is not low; but you know your body best.. Since it is your first cycle, there's no way to tell if you would've been heading to any issues. In any case, next time get some arimidex and take that .25mg everyday and see how your body reacts to that along with your test shots.

["Maximus"]

^^^ the added benefit of estrogen rebound ...... which needs to be controlled with a pct protocol including serms.... which will block receptor while body disposes of excess circulating estrogen.....
I dunno - i stand by my advice - estrogen blocked in 2 days with nolva plus letro in the mix as well. Letro will suppress aromtization - but do nothing for existing circulating estrogen. By blocking the receptor with nolva and using letro ....you can jump on the issue immediately....
Im still confused by the nolva too suppressive comment .....
Anyway - JMO.....

Which is fine.. but do remember that your body still needs estrogen not only for anabolic /androgenic effects, but also for life-sustaining functions... But I get your point, you mean that one needs to KEEP estrogen levels in check! Both you and I are on the same page on this reasoning!

[garu67]

Thank you for all the help Maximus. I was a little too late on getting on this site so I didn't realize that bf% was such a big deal had I known I wouldn't of started.

["Maximus"]

Thank you for all the help Maximus. I was a little too late on getting on this site so I didn't realize that bf% was such a big deal had I known I wouldn't of started.

It's k bro; we all made mistakes at the beginning! Just get some letro and keep the Nolva at 20mg/40mg but don't lose your head on the process unless you feel more comfortable upping the dosage at 40mg ED it's your call.

Best of lucks!

[garu67]

Maximus when you say a "strong PCT" what would you recommend?

[Ashop]

First cycle taking 125mg sustanon eod. My nipples have been sore last couple of days so I started taking Nolvadex today at 20mg, should I continue to use 20mg a day for rest of cycle or higher dosage until the soreness goes away? I am 6 weeks in of a 12 week cycle.

Try 20mg for a week or two,,if symptoms do no reside,,,bump up to 40mg daily until they do.

["Maximus"]

Maximus when you say a "strong PCT" what would you recommend?

Refer to post #3, last sentence on "PCT"