need advice!

[TrojanMan045]

Hey boys just wanted to introduce myself and get some advice from some experienced guys on the steroid subject.

I'm 6'0 220 pounds, I have 20% body fat, and I'm 18 years old and gonna be starting my senior football season next fall. I know your gonna say I'm too young for roids, but I really need a college scholorship and I believe this will get me to that next level.

I don't know really anything about steroids , so what should i start off with and that sort of thing?

Can you please help me out??

[Mammon]

well to young is correct..
also, not just gonna lay it all out there for ya.. your gonna have to put in the time doing a little research on your own..

[johnnybigguns]

Your too young bro.
If you can't get to that level the way you are steroids sure aren't gunna get you there

[jbm]

Bro I wanna give advice but you are too young and your body fat is too high.
bring down your body fat to at least 15%

[TrojanMan045]

yea i have noticed that everyone says bring it down to 15%, so i will definately do that before i start, but what type should i buy for being a first timer? and do i need to take anything else for health reasons before or after or anything? i notice a lot of people talking about PCT what is that for?

[jbm]

yea i have noticed that everyone says bring it down to 15%, so i will definately do that before i start, but what type should i buy for being a first timer? and do i need to take anything else for health reasons before or after or anything? i notice a lot of people talking about PCT what is that for?

18 is too young are you sure you wanna destroy your natural hormones?

[TrojanMan045]

yea i have given it a lot of thought and i think im gonna go through with it, if you dont support me i totally understand. I just want some advice on how to really get started. I have read hundreds of threads on here over a few months now, and i just need to know how to get started that sort of thing...

[Mammon]

well pct is post cycle therapy .. what you do to get your natural test production fired up again after being shut down..
your endocrine system is still developing.. wouldnt want to screw around at this time.. also possible premature closure of growth plates can be an issue..

[TrojanMan045]

clen says you can loose some body-fat when you take that, why do i need to get down 15% body fat when clen can bring that down for me in the meantime? just wondering?

[CHUCKYthentic]

higher the body fat the higher risk of sides like gyno (bitch tits), high blood pressure and cholesterol

[Immortal Soldier]

Hey boys just wanted to introduce myself and get some advice from some experienced guys on the steroid subject.

I'm 6'0 220 pounds, I have 20% body fat, and I'm 18 years old and gonna be starting my senior football season next fall. I know your gonna say I'm too young for roids, but I really need a college scholorship and I believe this will get me to that next level.

I don't know really anything about steroids , so what should i start off with and that sort of thing?

Can you please help me out??

Steroids aren't going to make you stand out enough to get college scouts attention when you are already in your senior year.

Do you even have a source to buy steroids from that are legit?

[CHUCKYthentic]

look i played high school footaball would have played college hadnt i torn up shoulder, i wasnt huge. played with and against plenty of guys that played at the next level. also new of 4 guys that juiced in high school and 1 only 1 played college ball! then tore his knee up his 1st year, not sayin that was steroid related, just sayin. Another 1 of those four guys is messed up for life! i guarn-damn-tee he will or already shoulf be on TRT. he is an idiot when it comes to juicing and never comes off his cycle, runs horrible stacks i could go on! the other 2 guys are losers now! steroids aside, im not sayin they are what they are due to the juice....
the best guys i played with and against were all natty baby! monsters lifting heavy weight, big fast strong prob everything u want. and you know what they took FOOD! ate like champs! most went on to paly college sports, some opted not to. not to mention you are 18, you could still grow a few inches. well if you take AAS, you can kiss those inches goodbye!
wai til you are at least 23
diet train hard diet train harder! you will get to where you want to be if you want it enough
good luck bud!

[TrojanMan045]

for my pct can i just use steroid clense from steroids .com?

[jbm]

for my pct can i just use steroid clense from steroids .com?

NO NO NO bro...

[Mammon]

wtf... no.. lmao
dude.. i know no matter what we say your going to do this shit.. atleast spend the time in the educational threads doing some reading.. go to the pct forum.. read the stickies..
post like that make it even harder for me to take you seriously

[CHUCKYthentic]

Steroids aren't going to make you stand out enough to get college scouts attention when you are already in your senior year.

Do you even have a source to buy steroids from that are legit?

great point! i was getting looked at, along with others, my junior year!

[ottomaddox]

Too Young! Keep reading and learning and in the long run you'll be better off.

[Immortal Soldier]

for my pct can i just use steroid clense from steroids.com?

A steroid cleanse is ment to get the steroids out of your body in a short amount of time to avoid testing.

A PCT is ment to restart the production of natural testosterone and limit estrogen after a user has gotten off cycle in order to maintain the most of the gains.

This is a bad idea...if you don't listen now you will learn the hard way that steroids weren't the answer when you don't get your scholarship and find out that they weren't the miracle drug you thought they would be.

[jamyjamjr]

dude... i dont think you've read more then 3 posts.. you need to kick back and give yourself some time to grow naturally... eat like an animal...

my ass is big, im 6' 4 275lbs at 17% bf, but i got myself upto 250 before i even started touching juice, which was just last year... im freakin 24... your gonna jack yourself up man... look around, everyone is telling you THE SAME THING....

[TrojanMan045]

Is steroids .com a legit source?

I know a few guys that use them but i would not rely on them for steroids, so i figured i would use clen to start off with then once i loose a bit more weight i would switch to more of a "mass gainer"

I know its not smart at all, and i have read all the side affects and read what may happen, i may regret it or i may not but im willing to do it right now to get the results i am looking for.

All I'm trying to do right now is get educated on what i should take and what results i may expect... After I gain some knowledge on this subject I will go from there in choosing what to take and how much, that sort of thing???

[Mammon]

Is steroids .com a legit source?

you talking about the banner at the top.. buysteroids

[ottomaddox]

Food Food and more Food. If you can't gain without steroids , what makes you think you'll gain with them?

I thank you for trying to inform me that i am too young and it may damage my body, but I am past that stage in my decision, and want to know what to take for my body.

[TrojanMan045]

yes i am talking about the banner at the top...am i just making a fool of myself askin these kind of Q's lol

[Mammon]

yep....lol
spend you money on food.. not those "supplements"..

[TrojanMan045]

well thanks to all the people that posted on this thread, because it has turned my thoughts around and i am not gonna go forward with the steroids . I obviously don't know what i am talking about, and don't have a clue with what i am getting myself into. especially since every one of you said i am too young haha. So thank you for the advice!

If you could help me with one more thing thatd be awesome tho...
What kind of diet and excersize should i do besides just lifting weights.
My main goal is to lose twenty pounds and be a solid 200 pounds?

[johnnybigguns]

VERY GOOD CHOICE BRO!
its nice to see someone actually listening I think your the first one ive ever seen that listened

[honda450]

yeah way too young don't rely on steroids to get you to the next level.. its all about diet and fitness buddy..

[jamyjamjr]

well thanks to all the people that posted on this thread, because it has turned my thoughts around and i am not gonna go forward with the steroids . I obviously don't know what i am talking about, and don't have a clue with what i am getting myself into. especially since every one of you said i am too young haha. So thank you for the advice!

If you could help me with one more thing thatd be awesome tho...
What kind of diet and excersize should i do besides just lifting weights.
My main goal is to lose twenty pounds and be a solid 200 pounds?

thats one for the good guys.....

good for you man... if you wanna find a great diet, follow this link

So you wanna learn how to Diet?

as for your exercise routine... tell me what your doing right now, ill tell you want to change, if anything needs changing

[TrojanMan045]

Cardio- 2 mile jog Sunday through thursday
Weights- Mon: Bench, Curls, Incline, Decline, sit-ups
Tues: Squats, Lunges, calf-raises, sit-ups
Wed: same as monday
Thurs: same as tuesday
Fri/Sat: nothing

Thanks for the help!!! let me know what you think

[Mammon]

yeah that routine needs work bro..

[Mammon]

if you can hack it...

Day 1-chest
Flat barbell bench press
Incline dumbbell press
Pec deck
Incline machine press
Cable crossovers

Day 2-back

Bent barbell rows
Hammer strength pulldowns
Low pulley rows
Pulldowns with narrow v-bar

Day 3-shoulders

Barbell shoulder press
Side laterals
Rear delt machine
Shrugs
Side lateral machine

Day 4-arms(superset tris and bis)

Straight barbell curl
Scull crushers
Dumbellcurls
Cable pressdowns

Do a set of bis then a set of tris

Day 5-legs

Barbell squat
Leg extentions
Hack squats

Hamstrings
Stiffleg deadlifts
Lying leg curls

Calves
Seated raises
Standing raises

[TrojanMan045]

haha well i do go to school and have a part time job so i don't have a lot of time on my hands...but thanks a lot this has all helped me tremendously!

[Mammon]

hell thats an hour in the gym tops.. usually out in 45 minutes

[murphylee]

this kid is wreckless

[dan_e666]

too young...and too fat. 20% is too high. you gotta work on your CV when your on a cycle, and your obviously not good at that, so work on that, as youl prob neglect your CV when on a cycle if your bf is high now.

also you say you go to school and have a p/t job-you sound as though that means you cant work out much as have little time on your hands? if you think roids are magic, they arent for you.

[MMArmour]

look man...If you need steroids just to compete at a high school level, imagine how what youd need to compete at the college level and upward?? There are many many scholarships available brotha. Not just football ones.

[HuntMan]

this kid is wreckless

I really don't think that is necessary. At least he has taken the time to be honest, and to try to get help. With the help of the pro's on this board he has changed his mind, and hopefully will work on his diet and training. Good for him, and i applaud him in his decision. Tellin him he is wreckless probably won't do much for helpin him out. just my 2 cents.

[dan_e666]

I really don't think that is necessary. At least he has taken the time to be honest, and to try to get help. With the help of the pro's on this board he has changed his mind, and hopefully will work on his diet and training. Good for him, and i applaud him in his decision. Tellin him he is wreckless probably won't do much for helpin him out. just my 2 cents.

i think he was referring to the workout mammon posted

[HuntMan]

ok, well sorry for the misunderstanding.

[jamyjamjr]

attack!!!!!! lol...

na.. smart thinking kid, but your workout routine needs to be overhauled... how many days a week can u commit to working out??