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    Clenbuterol or ephedrine?

    Which one do you prefer and why? I've never used clen before. Is it worth using over ephedrine?

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    From what I remember about ephedrine I would go clen forsure.
    I don't like the crash and everything on ephedrine.
    Plus clen feels like its doing alot more

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    I was asking myself the same question the other day. I got a bottle of clen that I may use when I start cutting in 7 weeks. I have never taken clen and i'm not sure how i'll react to it. I was thinking about taking Lipo-6 for 3 weeks or so then stopping it and starting clen. I was able to cut a good deal of weight on Lipo-6 last year so i'm thinking that I shouldn't rush into taking clen right away when I can get by with a normal fat burner and cut some weight in the first few weeks. Does that make sense to anyone?
    Oh and I love Ephedrine. Back when it was legal I used it for cycling all the time.

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    Clenbuterol + DNP

    Because Ephedrine is impossible to get ahold of down under.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HOLLYWOOD.JACK View Post
    Clenbuterol + DNP

    Because Ephedrine is impossible to get ahold of down under.
    your kidding right? why would you want to run both of these at the same time, and i hope you don't say "because clen is anti-catabolic"

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    Sounds like a near death experience

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    I felt they worked great for me, low dose of DNP plus ~40mcg of Clenbuterol ED
    They do separate things, chemically they dont interfere with each other in any way.

    Each to their own, my body and it works for me without any issues Thats just MY experience.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HOLLYWOOD.JACK View Post
    I felt they worked great for me, low dose of DNP plus ~40mcg of Clenbuterol ED
    They do separate things, chemically they dont interfere with each other in any way.

    Each to their own, my body and it works for me without any issues Thats just MY experience.
    i agree that they would work together well, but that IMO is the problem, DNP is a mitochondrial uncoupler, making our metabolism more inefficient, and clen raises the metabolism

    add them together and i can see some definite problems with internal temperature from heat

    anyway, i've never run DNP so i can't comment on that, just saying i believe it's a bad idea

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    Quote Originally Posted by Phate View Post
    anyway, i've never run DNP so i can't comment on that, just saying i believe it's a bad idea
    I guess it just depends how you react to it, I believe everyone should be very careful in finding a suitable dosage and definitely not ramping it up to the maximum dosage from day 1 but I can see where you're coming from.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HOLLYWOOD.JACK View Post
    I guess it just depends how you react to it, I believe everyone should be very careful in finding a suitable dosage and definitely not ramping it up to the maximum dosage from day 1 but I can see where you're coming from.
    yeah, and my bad if i came off like a dick, either way, nice to have someone with some DNP experience around, i look forward to any DNP/clen logs you write if you choose to do so

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    Quote Originally Posted by Phate View Post
    yeah, and my bad if i came off like a dick, either way, nice to have someone with some DNP experience around, i look forward to any DNP/clen logs you write if you choose to do so
    No worries, I've run it before but stopped too early due to the weather here (We hit a heat wave and just didnt want to risk it) so after my next bulk I'll either run DNP alone or with Clenbuterol as well and definitely put up a log.

    The only side effects I noticed between the two is with DNP at a high dose I'd get frequent hot flushes (not good when your cities in a heat wave) and as for Clenbuterol the only side effect I dislike is being jittery - makes it hard to write lol

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    Dont really get the "jitters" y'all talk about when youre on clen . Im on my 6th day using clen now and i honestly dont feel it. Nothing.
    Started with 60mcg, increasing by 20mcg every 3 days. Will go up to 120-140mcg...depending on how my body reacts.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Freefalling View Post
    Dont really get the "jitters" y'all talk about when youre on clen . Im on my 6th day using clen now and i honestly dont feel it. Nothing.
    Started with 60mcg, increasing by 20mcg every 3 days. Will go up to 120-140mcg...depending on how my body reacts.
    You're lucky My mate is like that too, I was on 40mcg and still jittery - he was up to 80-100mcg and still perfectly fine, no idea why (same Clen too) Good thing about becoming jittery is you know its real

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    Quote Originally Posted by HOLLYWOOD.JACK View Post
    You're lucky My mate is like that too, I was on 40mcg and still jittery - he was up to 80-100mcg and still perfectly fine, no idea why (same Clen too) Good thing about becoming jittery is you know its real
    i'm the same, i've run up to 400mcg/day(just for the hell of it) and i don't get sides at all, but some friends of mine took 40mcg of my stuff and were like crack addicts needin a fix

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    ive taken both, eph makes me feel like shit but they DO work well, but given the option id opt for clen as i feel it gives you a more ripped look.

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    I hate clen , I gives me headaches, Back and traps muscle cramps and increases my anxiety like crazy.
    ECA stack on the other hand. Makes me super happy, I am always in a good mood, and I am always in the mood to get stuff done. Nothing better than ECA. It also suppressess your apetite 10 times more than clen so you will eat much less.

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    DNP and clen can be done perfectly, DNP will make you super lethargic and tired and you need something for energy, But ephedra gives you better energy so DNP and Ephedra is a much better choice, and DNP will increase your apetite and ephedra will Supress it.
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    DNP + CLEN = Okay
    DNP + Ephedra = PERFECT COMBO

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    ohhh man, you guys should try DNP 500mg ed, clen 120mcg ed, t3 100mcg ed, and 60mg of adderall xr ed..... it goes sooooo well together!! I lost my appetite for quite a while and dropped soooooo much weight. it's crazy...





















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    but I love clen and ephedrine.... would probably choose clen over ephedrine though, it's cheaper too! lol

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    i had jitters from clen on the first days only, then i built up to 250mcg no sides at all .. i was feeling super duper normal

    and i chose Ephedrine over clen coz i get 200 clen pill for 44$ and i get 200 Ephedrine pill for 7$ .. so screw Clen, i go with ephedrine =P

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    Quote Originally Posted by Polska View Post
    Which one do you prefer and why? I've never used clen before. Is it worth using over ephedrine?
    CLENBUTEROL has always worked better for me.

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    Clen and DNP if you have DNP thats worth a shit..

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    I'm confused, I can buy ephedrine over the counter here in Canada... Ephedrine HCL, same shit right? Where is it illegal? I feel sorry for you guys :P

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    Ephedrine HCL is illegal in some US states, Australia, NZ, Japan etc .. lots of countries
    Because its a #1 ingredient used to make methamphetamines and what not ..

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    Quote Originally Posted by Headliner View Post
    I'm confused, I can buy ephedrine over the counter here in Canada... Ephedrine HCL, same shit right? Where is it illegal? I feel sorry for you guys :P
    it's illegal in the US now

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    Quote Originally Posted by Polska View Post
    Which one do you prefer and why? I've never used clen before. Is it worth using over ephedrine?
    Clen is superior because it is an anti-catabolic where as ephedrine can be somewhat catabolic since it increases cortisol levels.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ronnie Rowland View Post
    Clen is superior because it is an anti-catabolic where as ephedrine can be somewhat catabolic since it increases cortisol levels.
    debatable point but i'll agree it increases protein synthesis over ECA, still not convinced it has true anti-catabolic properties

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    hmm, definitely going to stock up on ephedrine then, just in case, wooo go canada

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    Quote Originally Posted by Phate View Post
    it's illegal in the US now
    Few people have told me they've found it at their local truck stops etc
    Its a certain cold and flu medicine too, cant remember the name though (blue/white packet)

    ECA: Makes me feel good, more so 'euphoric' to be honest, concentrate more etc .. downside is the crash, for me anyway.
    Clen : Only downside is the shakes, especially when your trying to write notes in class.. lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by HOLLYWOOD.JACK View Post
    Few people have told me they've found it at their local truck stops etc
    Its a certain cold and flu medicine too, cant remember the name though (blue/white packet)

    ECA: Makes me feel good, more so 'euphoric' to be honest, concentrate more etc .. downside is the crash, for me anyway.
    Clen: Only downside is the shakes, especially when your trying to write notes in class.. lol
    Yeah that's what it's marketed as in Canada, at least what I'm buying. "Oral nasal decongestant"

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    Theres Bronkaid and Vasopro

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