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02-25-2009, 03:33 PM #1Junior Member
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12 weeks or 15 weeks test only very first cycle
I have posted my stats and everything a few weeks ago and have been approved here to start this cycle.
Would it be ok to run my first cycle of test e only 15 weeks vs 12?
Would my pct have to be extended? Here is my original pct plan
To start 14 days after last test shot
100/50/50/50 clomid
40/40/20/20 nolva
I have hcg to run in cycle if I think I need it
I have adex to run in cycle if needed
I have aromasin to run during pct if needed
I also have letro
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02-25-2009, 03:36 PM #2Banned
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If you want to and your still getting good gains you can go to 15 in my opinion
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02-25-2009, 03:39 PM #3
i stopped seein gains around week 12 of a 15 week cycle i did in the past. but ya if you're still seein gains say week 11 then extend it
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02-25-2009, 03:39 PM #4Junior Member
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Would that pct still be ok even with the extended 3 weeks, should I start using hcg around week 12 at 500iu e4d?
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02-25-2009, 03:43 PM #5
doubt you ll need the hcg unless u WANT to use it during
if u start to see any gyno or bloat or any estro sides, could start the adex
if you use the adex you prob wont need any AI in pct
if you dont use the adex in cycle i like it during pct cuz it doesnt take away ALL of ur estro since u still need a little
good to see someone who has all their shit together
when u startin OP?
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02-25-2009, 03:47 PM #6
ya your clomid and nolva look fine, maybe week 2 of nolva drop it to 20mg
with your AI's, as long as you have them all on hand then use it as needed. adex should be sufficient
i personally dont use hcg
hcg just mimics your body into stimulating the LH
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02-25-2009, 03:52 PM #7Junior Member
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I'm just worried my gf won't like small gonads. I'm hoping she don't have much to say about it.
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02-25-2009, 03:52 PM #8
since it is your 1st cycle, you should just do 10-12 weeks max bro. as long as training and diet is on you 're guna blow up and get some great strength gains. save that extra bottle of test for the future.
What ester are you running by the way?
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02-25-2009, 03:54 PM #9
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02-25-2009, 03:56 PM #10Junior Member
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It's test enanthate
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02-25-2009, 03:57 PM #11
here is his stats from older post, personally I hate having to search for stats when I could be answering questions.....
Here are my stats
36
5'9
196LB
15 years training on and off last 2 years have been training.
BF 14%
The goal is bulking and strength right now.
This is my planned cycle
500 Test E Mon 250mg Thurs 250mg weeks 1 to 12
dbol weeks 1 to 4 30mg per day 1 capsule morning, noon and night
arimidex .25mg ed weeks 1 to 14 only as needed if I have bloating
finastride 2mg ed weeks 1 to 14 then weeks 15 to 18 1mg
nizorol 2% eod weeks 1 to 18
hcg may be added to this weeks 4 to 13 500 iu e4d
PCT planned to start 2 weeks after last shot of test
Clomid 100/50/50/50
Nolva 20/20/20/20
Aromasin 25/25/25/25/25
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02-25-2009, 03:57 PM #12Junior Member
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I'm not worried about the size of my nuts, just my gf might be, I don't know yet.
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02-25-2009, 03:58 PM #13
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02-25-2009, 04:00 PM #14
12 weeks should be fine...see how you feel at week 12 and if you are still feeling like you are gaining, then extend it. No real big deal.. If you feel your gains have plateaued, then stop at week 12 or 13 or 14 whatever.
Run your pct as you outlined, EAT , Lift heavy, Rest and you will GROW
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02-25-2009, 04:01 PM #15
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02-25-2009, 04:01 PM #16Junior Member
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I'm not going to use the dbol this time around. I have made minor changes after researching for the past few weeks. I have been on a cutting diet for the last 4 weeks, I'm about 14%bf now still cutting for one more week.
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02-25-2009, 04:04 PM #17
ya bro you will like your gains from the test only. dbol could put on too much bloat for you and without it at least you will get to see what the test will do to your body
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02-25-2009, 04:11 PM #18Junior Member
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I have some clen could I use it for the first few weeks of test since it doesn't kick in for 5 or 6 weeks, to help me shed fat, I would really like to get down to 12%
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02-25-2009, 04:12 PM #19
you can, but clen is better after your cycle to help solidify gains and harden you up
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02-25-2009, 04:16 PM #20Junior Member
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So should I start clen same day as pct or after I'm done pct?
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02-25-2009, 08:58 PM #21Member
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I found HCG to be a big help in getting my test up and running again. Plus i don't want lil kid balls.
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