Cycle IDEA FOR FRIEND IN DOUBT

**drizz69** · 02-25-2009, 11:31 PM

My friend is interested in taking a cutting cycle yet wants to build muscle or atleast keep most of it while he burns off.

My question is what dosage do you guys recommend for the following stack
Test C + Primo + Trembolone

This would be a second cycle for him aswell, he is sick of the bloating effect and wants to build as lean as he can possibly afford.

**CHUCKYthentic** · 02-25-2009, 11:32 PM

what are your friends stats?

**drizz69** · 02-25-2009, 11:35 PM

around 210 15 % BF and almost 6" he is 24
His first cycle consisted of test E and Dia. He retained a bit too much water, you know the type that looks great with a shirt on, but when they take it off its a whole different story.

**johnnybigguns** · 02-25-2009, 11:37 PM

i would stay away from the tren for a few more.
If you bulk or cut is all on diet

**Reed** · 02-25-2009, 11:37 PM

Sounds like he needs to work on the diet not take drugs.... diet/cardio dictates what your results in a cycle would be not throwing some drugs together that seem to have a "fat burning" profile (whatever that is)

**CHUCKYthentic** · 02-25-2009, 11:38 PM

did he run pct after that cycle?
i wouldnt recommend tren in a second cycle either. he can get lean bulk off of many other compounds, even test alone if he knows how to diet and train that way

**drizz69** · 02-25-2009, 11:43 PM

he had a pretty good diet considering he is hispanic and white rice with fatty meats is on the menu 365 days a year. But he gained about 35 pounds yet i fear half of it was water.

He trains MMA so cardio isnt a problem for him ever, just got a little too carried away while he was bulking i would say. he want sto make solid strenght gains in hope to one day make it pro. I would probably say he is trying to build strenght away from the water retention.

What do you guys think the dossage should be then for the cycle up on top

**drizz69** · 02-25-2009, 11:44 PM

Originally Posted by CHUCKYthentic

did he run pct after that cycle?
i wouldnt recommend tren in a second cycle either. he can get lean bulk off of many other compounds, even test alone if he knows how to diet and train that way

yea he did pct along with me HCG 2 weeks, clo and nov 4 weeks

**CHUCKYthentic** · 02-25-2009, 11:46 PM

well if he trains MMA then tren will mess up his endurance and stamina during cardio workout

**drizz69** · 02-25-2009, 11:47 PM

Originally Posted by CHUCKYthentic

well if he trains MMA then tren will mess up his endurance and stamina during cardio workout

wouldnt primo help overcome this?

**CHUCKYthentic** · 02-25-2009, 11:47 PM

[QUOTE=drizz69;4460846]he had a pretty good diet considering he is hispanic and white rice with fatty meats is on the menu 365 days a year. But he gained about 35 pounds yet i fear half of it was water.

that is actually a horrible diet man

**CHUCKYthentic** · 02-25-2009, 11:49 PM

regardless, tren is not for 2nd time users. im going in to 4th cycle soon and barely going to run tren acetate for the 1st time

**drizz69** · 02-25-2009, 11:50 PM

what do you think would be the dossage though to awnser his question for that cycle, i will make sure i tell him regardless it isnt recomended

**drizz69** · 02-25-2009, 11:54 PM

I know test E is at 500weekly divided into two shots, just cant answer the rest of the dosages for him

**CHUCKYthentic** · 02-25-2009, 11:56 PM

not agreeing he should use tren , but good beginner dose is 50mg every day, thats 350/week
as for the primo are they the tabs or inject?

**CHUCKYthentic** · 02-26-2009, 12:00 AM

for inject since its the enanthate ester id say 200mg twice per week for a total of 400mg/week
tab 50mg per day split 5x

**drizz69** · 02-26-2009, 12:00 AM

primo is inject, and then its tren enanthate

**CHUCKYthentic** · 02-26-2009, 12:01 AM

Originally Posted by CHUCKYthentic

for inject since its the enanthate ester id say 200mg twice per week for a total of 400mg/week
tab 50mg per day split 5x

^^^ talkin primo here

**CHUCKYthentic** · 02-26-2009, 12:03 AM

ya dump the tren enanthate dude. need to try acetate first to see if he can handle the sides, if he cant he cant he can dump it and be fine in a few days. for the enanthate, it would take a few weeks if he cant handle the sides. do not let him take tren e

**CHUCKYthentic** · 02-26-2009, 12:05 AM

tell him to try a test e/deca stack if he is dead set on cycling right now

**drizz69** · 02-26-2009, 12:05 AM

i appreciate your help a whole lot.

So should I throw him the following cycle stack?

Test C 500 weekly / two shots monday & Thursday weeks 1-12
Tren 400 Weekly / same day shots 1-10
Primo 600 weekly / weeks 1-10

**CHUCKYthentic** · 02-26-2009, 12:06 AM

Originally Posted by drizz69

i appreciate your help a whole lot.

So should I throw him the following cycle stack?

Test C 500 weekly / two shots monday & Thursday weeks 1-12
Tren 400 Weekly / same day shots 1-10
Primo 600 weekly / weeks 1-10

^^^hell no you should not throw him that stack

**drizz69** · 02-26-2009, 12:08 AM

Originally Posted by CHUCKYthentic

^^^hell no you should not throw him that stack

lol bad dosages?

**CHUCKYthentic** · 02-26-2009, 12:11 AM

no bad compounds. take the tren out of the equation period. didnt you read what i said about it?

**drizz69** · 02-26-2009, 12:15 AM

ok, so test C 500 twice weekly
and primo 600 twice weekly

is this good enough in your opinion?

**CHUCKYthentic** · 02-26-2009, 12:19 AM

Originally Posted by drizz69

ok, so test C 500 twice weekly
and primo 600 twice weekly

is this good enough in your opinion?

good enough i assume

he needs to fix that diet tho. white rice and fatty meat= that bloat he doesnt want

**drizz69** · 02-26-2009, 12:20 AM

primo is done same days as test C correct? mondays and thursdays in his case?

**CHUCKYthentic** · 02-26-2009, 12:21 AM

he can shoot them together yes in 1 syringe on the same days

**drizz69** · 02-26-2009, 12:22 AM

ok thank you very much you have been great help for me

**CHUCKYthentic** · 02-26-2009, 12:23 AM

does he already have all his gear and pct?
whats the mg/ml on each of the bottles?

**drizz69** · 02-26-2009, 12:25 AM

Originally Posted by CHUCKYthentic

does he already have all his gear and pct?
whats the mg/ml on each of the bottles?

He has tren because i got it for him lol i dont think he is going to be happy when i tell him they dont recomend him taking it.
He is still waiting for primo and test C

The tren he has is 200
test is going to be 250mg

**CHUCKYthentic** · 02-26-2009, 12:25 AM

oh shit, and just noticed you said 600mg for the primo, no id go 400mg/week. 600 is on the high end

**CHUCKYthentic** · 02-26-2009, 12:27 AM

ya tren e can be expensive. tell him to sell it if he can or hold on to it for the future but if he ever tries tren he must do tren a 1st

**drizz69** · 02-26-2009, 12:28 AM

Originally Posted by CHUCKYthentic

oh shit, and just noticed you said 600mg for the primo, no id go 400mg/week. 600 is on the high end

sounds good i dont know what he is going to do with the tren , i dont think the dealer accepts refunds lol but what do you mean by "He must do tren a 1st" ?

**CHUCKYthentic** · 02-26-2009, 12:32 AM

need to try acetate first to see if he can handle the sides, if he cant he can he can dump it and be fine in a few days. for the enanthate , it would take a few weeks if he cant handle the sides and that would be no bueno for him

***T-MOS*** · 02-26-2009, 12:33 AM

Originally Posted by drizz69

He has tren because i got it for him lol i dont think he is going to be happy when i tell him they dont recomend him taking it.
He is still waiting for primo and test C

The tren he has is 200
test is going to be 250mg

he will be even less happy with the harsh sides of tren and using Tren E the harsh sides will stay with him for weeks when he decides we were right and he should have listened and stops taking it.

doesn't sound like he is ready to use steroids !!!!!