AI needed on test only cycle?

[Jumbo18]

so i have heard people tell me to only use an AI on a test only cycle if i really need it. however i'm trying to avoid gettin gyno, so should i stick to arimidex .25 e3d just incase, or if i start getting libido problems then use it? I am not sure if i am sensitive to estrogen side effects, would be my first test cycle. would the first signs before getting gyno be libido issues because of the elevated estrogen, or you can have gyno even if your libido is fine?

[peachfuzz]

How much test are we talking?

generally your best bet is too have adex on hand and implement if you start to experience any sides.

Ex. sensitivity, lumps, loss of libido, bloat (if this concers you.) BP too high etc.

[iPump]

Ok bro here's my short answer. Whenever I am using any type of test in a cycle (which is just about every cycle unless strange circumstances arise) I always use 20-25 mg of Clomid ed. It's great because it causes almost no H2O retention vs. Nolva. Except for the end of the cycle in that case I up the Clomid to 50-200 mg ed for pct. As far as your adex question, I would have some liquid adex on hand (at least 1 months worth at .5-1mg a day) just in case you get some gyno or any other type of related problems. Its relatively expensive compared to most Ancilliaries so keeping just a month's worth should be sufficient. Good luck bro.

[legobricks]

Ok bro here's my short answer. Whenever I am using any type of test in a cycle (which is just about every cycle unless strange circumstances arise) I always use 20-25 mg of Clomid ed. It's great because it causes almost no H2O retention vs. Nolva. Except for the end of the cycle in that case I up the Clomid to 50-200 mg ed for pct. As far as your adex question, I would have some liquid adex on hand (at least 1 months worth at .5-1mg a day) just in case you get some gyno or any other type of related problems. Its relatively expensive compared to most Ancilliaries so keeping just a month's worth should be sufficient. Good luck bro.

HUH?

Ummm no....

First off clomid sucks at its job as a SERM. Nolva is far superior, AND tamoxifen does not bloat you....

Clomid only for PCT sucks as well. Nolva (or tamoxifen) has been shown (and tried with success) at stimulating GnRh for higher LH and FSH production.
.5mg -1mg a day of adex is a lot, .25mg ED if you see signs should be plenty. And you can get more than a months supply at our website sponsor www.ar-r.com

[chicmagnet]

I try to avoid it if I can, depends if you can live with minor sides, little acne, little bloating, depending on amount of test of course. But keep an eye out for gyno, always good to have some on hand for this and if others get to much.

[redz]

Only run adex if needed, definitely dont run clomid on cycle. That was some poor advice(to the guy suggesting clomid)

[iPump]

Wow guys... I was simply giving my opinion based on what I've used in the past. Sure it might not be right for everyone, but its always worked great for me. There's absolutely nothing wrong with using clomid during a cycle in low amounts to prevent gyno. As for a pct its way better than nolva. You can even look at the sample cycles on THIS website and all of them list clomid for pct. So chill out and read before saying my advice is poor.

[johnnybigguns]

Check out this gyno thread then you will have a better understanding

http://forums.steroid.com/showthread.php?t=236880

[redz]

Wow guys... I was simply giving my opinion based on what I've used in the past. Sure it might not be right for everyone, but its always worked great for me. There's absolutely nothing wrong with using clomid during a cycle in low amounts to prevent gyno. As for a pct its way better than nolva. You can even look at the sample cycles on THIS website and all of them list clomid for pct. So chill out and read before saying my advice is poor.

Its poor advice, I never said anything about not using clomid for pct, I use both clomid and nolva for all my pcts but running clomid on cycle makes no sense if you must use a serm than nolva is the right choice. You are actually the first person I have ever seen on this site trying to advocate using clomid on cycle.

[iPump]

Guess what... the majority of people on hrt are using clomid on an every day basis. Test results have shown it to be superior to nolva due to the lack of h2o retention. I'm not making this up bro. Even on this site clo is listed as having no h2o retention vs nolva that has h20 retention. Also, clomid will not hinder any gains as nova will. Again, it clearly states this on this website.

[jamyjamjr]

^^^ wow dude.. we should just make you a mod here so you could share all your experiance with us.. we're so arrogent... people like lego bricks have no idea what they're talking about, who cares if he has all the experiance in the world and you seem to have no idea what your talking about.... screw it all!!

[BigIce]

But if Clomid is the only SERM one can get ?

Is it not better than nothing, I mean, are there any negative sides form using it that Nolva has not ?

[BigIce]

But if Clomid is the only SERM one can get ?

Is it not better than nothing, I mean, are there any negative sides form using it that Nolva has not ?

Anyone ?

[SuperStrong]

Hi, i'm also wondering what to take for a test. only cycle, particularly Test Enth 250mgs or 500mgs a week.

So along the same lines as what the original poster was asking: is Arimidex the only thing needed? And at .25mg adex every day? Is the dose lower if one decides to go with a 250mg 1x a week of Test enth only cycle?

Is nolva not needed? Is nolva not recommended over arimidex? I know Mick Hart (author of layman's guide to aas) uses nolva from day one in most all his cycles.

Also, what is the reason a lot of you are against clomid on a cycle?

For PCT of a test-enth only cycle, do you just increase the dosage of the adex? If so, then by how much? Or do you have to bring in other things, like Nolva? And I guess HCG would only be reserved if you have shrunk balls.

SS