How Long In the System?????

[thebiggerthebetter]

Hey, I'm new to this and was planning on stacking tren A, test prop, and winni. I'm going to do a ten week cycle and was wondering how long this will stay in my system and show up on a blood test once the cycle is over. If anybody could answer that, I'd appreciate it.

Thanks.

[PT]

winny- 8 weeks
test prop- 15 days
tren a- 18 weeks

[thebiggerthebetter]

Do you know if the steroid cleanse works? I saw an ad on the site for a 5-day cleanse.

[thebiggerthebetter]

I will be having a blood screening 8-9 weeks after my 10-week cycle. It is not specifically for steroids, it's just for general health/HIV. They would have to do a steroid specific test, wouldn't they?

[T-MOS]

it is NOT advised for you to do TREN in your first cycles

what are your stats and goals for this cycle??

age
height
weight
bodyfat %
diet
training
goals
PCT knowledge

what kind of testing are you worried about?

[JiGGaMaN]

I will be having a blood screening 8-9 weeks after my 10-week cycle. It is not specifically for steroids, it's just for general health/HIV. They would have to do a steroid specific test, wouldn't they?

yes.

[thebiggerthebetter]

Age: 25
Height: 5'9"
Weight: 235
Body fat: 24%
Diet: Healthy, trying to pack in more protein lately with shakes
Training: 6 days a week, high intensity
Goals: To get as big, strong, and lean as possible. I'd like to be sub-10%, 250 lbs.
PCT Knowledge: Minimal. I'm hoping to learn what I need to know on here.

I'm getting out of the military and will be doing the final blood work about 8-9 weeks after my cycle ends. I'm a little nervous about anything that might show up on that.

[JiGGaMaN]

Age: 25
Height: 5'9"
Weight: 235
Body fat: 24%
Diet: Healthy, trying to pack in more protein lately with shakes
Training: 6 days a week, high intensity
Goals: To get as big, strong, and lean as possible. I'd like to be sub-10%, 250 lbs.
PCT Knowledge: Minimal. I'm hoping to learn what I need to know on here.

I'm getting out of the military and will be doing the final blood work about 8-9 weeks after my cycle ends. I'm a little nervous about anything that might show up on that.

who is testing you and why are they testing you?

[thebiggerthebetter]

The medical people in the military test you before you get out. I think it's just to make sure you don't have any major diseases or illnesses. It's required to get out though.

[JiGGaMaN]

The medical people in the military test you before you get out. I think it's just to make sure you don't have any major diseases or illnesses. It's required to get out though.

no, you wont get tested for steroids then. its pretty costly to do, or so ive heard, and i dont think it would serve any purpose in this case.

[MD22]

PCT is the most important part of your cycle. Check out the PCT forum here http://forums.steroid.com/forumdisplay.php?f=77

Theres ton's of information on there. Also like T-Mos said, Tren def isn't advised for first cycles for many reasons. Come up with a plan and post how you are going to run each compound including PCT and post it and we can critique from there.

[Dizz28]

The Military, in no way, will test you for performance enhancing drugs on an exit physical.

Search for some of my posts in the drug testing forum, I explain military physicals a little more in depth

[thebiggerthebetter]

I was planning on doing 1 mL of tren A with 1 mL of test P in one injection EOD and 1 mL of winni EOD on opposing days? What makes it bad to do tren in a first cycle?

As far as PCT, I haven't looked into it too much. I'll have to do a lot more research and ask some more questions.

Does anybody know if steroid cleanse works?

[thebiggerthebetter]

With intense training, what sort of gains in lean muscle mass can be expected on this regimen? If I did test, tren, and winni? With just test and winni?

[T-MOS]

With intense training, what sort of gains in lean muscle mass can be expected on this regimen? If I did test, tren, and winni? With just test and winni?

OK, lets slow down a bit here.

you are 24% bodyfat now. it is not even advised to use steroids unless you are 15% or under. not that you can't , but you are multiplying the risks to your health by being higher

Do you have an understanding of the compounds you are suggesting you want to use?

Telling us one ml of this or one ml of that , really doesn't tell us how much you are going to use. We need to know the concentration of your compounds.

like 100 mgs/ml of Test P
or 75 mgs/ml of Tren A

You will NOT be happy with using winny until your bodyfat is under 10% as that is when it is best effective.

It sounds like you are determined to do this cycle whether we advise it for you or not.

First cycle is best kept to ONE compound , a single ester Test would be best , so you can see how your body will react to it. adding more than one compound, you will have no clue what is and isn't working for you or what is and isn't giving you good or bad side effects

[Mammon]

Does anybody know if steroid cleanse works?

wouldnt lay everything on the line hoping it worked ill say that..

[thebiggerthebetter]

You are right, I don't really know anything about steroids. I have tren, test p, and winni coming. I can always hold onto some of that and use it with another cycle. What would you suggest? I'd prefer to use something I've already paid for. What would you recommend for a first cycle with my stats?

[MD22]

Tren has many harsh side-effects...
It can easily cause adverse androgenic sides... Hair loss, Prostate Enlargement, Oily Skin, Gyno, It increases Prolactin which can lead to to high cholesterol which should be monitored while running tren. It can also have a negative effect on liver and kidney functions...People have even reported cases of psychological problems.....
The list goes on.. those are just a few..There's plenty of information on this site. Its good you're here asking questions but there's plenty room for your own research which will be good and help you alot more in the long run.

[thebiggerthebetter]

Do steroids have a shelf-life? I am thinking about not taking all my gear at once and was wondering if I can just wait to use it until another cycle.

[thebiggerthebetter]

I'm 5'9" and 235 pounds with 24% body fat. I've been lifting hard for about 10 years--I'm 25. This is my first cycle and was looking for some recommendations on what to take. I have tren A, test P, and winni. My original plan was as follows:

Tren A: 100mg EOD
Test P: 100mg EOD
Winni: 50 mg EOD

It's been brought to my attention that tren isn't good for a first cycle and that winni only works well when your body fat is around 10%. I have enough for a 10 week cycle of the above. Any recommendations? Or should I go with something different altogether?

[lord henry]

your body fat is too high man -get it down to around 15% and then your good to go.

as for what to use for 1st cycle-

weeks 1-12 500mgs test e per week

nolva/clomid pct.

maybe dbol at 30-35mgs ed forthe 1st 4 weeks .

nolva on hand for gyno probs or adex from the off at .25mgs eod right uptoday before pct

[Mammon]

diet and cardio at this point.. jmo

[T-MOS]

Do steroids have a shelf-life? I am thinking about not taking all my gear at once and was wondering if I can just wait to use it until another cycle.

they are good usually for a year or so after the expiration date

a good first cycle is a simple one compound single ester Testosterone

250-500 mgs/week for 10-12 weeks

[Immortal Soldier]

Bro you're body fat % is too high, get it down to 15% before you think about cycling.

Tren is the harshest injectable steroid, so obiviously it is not recommended to new users. It requires knowledge and experience most people don't take it until there 3 or 4th cycle.

For new users, the basic cycle is test-e or cyp at 500mg/week (250mg every 3.5 days) for 12 weeks. The point is so that you see how your body reacts to test-e and see if your susceptible to sides also you will grow regardless so why put more than it is required to grow?

Like I said you're bf% is too high you will be at risk for high blood pressure (especially if you run Tren since its raises blood pressure), estrogen related sides, fat gain, etc. etc.

Don't do it, I know this is not what you wanted to hear, but its the honest truth. It's your choice

[breakbones]

Way high

[johnnybigguns]

Stay away until you get that BF down. If you can't do a proper diet before using then your not gunna get the most out of using. And also you are at risk of more sides.

[T-MOS]

not sure why your starting a new thread, but lets merge these two

http://forums.steroid.com/showthread.php?t=377117

[T-MOS]

so despite all the advice given to you by experienced member here , you are still gonna do what YOU feel you need to do right?

Winny is NOT gonna do you well at 24% body fat

Tren is NOT for a first time user

I am guessing I am wasting my time here, so let us know when you want to do this the best way to keep you healthy

I'lll just be watching

[thebiggerthebetter]

I want to minimize my risk. I don't know how long it'll take me to get to 15%, but I can hold that gear for awhile. Any recommendations for cutting body fat fast?

[Mammon]

again.. diet and cardio.. patience and dedication

[lord henry]

good clean diet and lots of cardio -maybe some clen .

[T-MOS]

I want to minimize my risk. I don't know how long it'll take me to get to 15%, but I can hold that gear for awhile. Any recommendations for cutting body fat fast?

sure, here ya go.

http://forums.steroid.com/showthread.php?t=75729

the steroids will keep, but either way NO TREN for the first cycle