Stanozolol + Test C [Cutting]

[HOLLYWOOD.JACK]

Age: 22
Height: 5'10"
Weight: ~99KG
BF%: ~18%
Cycle: 0 injectables
Trained: 2-3 years on/off

Goal: 80KG
BF%: Ripped

Weeks 1-10: Test C 200mg EW
Weeks 1-10: Stanozolol 50-100mg ED

PCT: Nolvadex 40/40/20/20

Other: Clenbuterol

I know I could probably do this without gear but its on hand and I want to use it. Any opinions on the cycle above?

[PT]

i would use prop instead of test c so you can shoot it daily with the winny but if your dead stuck on test cyp then go for it. its only a trt dosage but the winny will help you if your bf is low

[HOLLYWOOD.JACK]

Thanks for the reply. How often would you recommend I inject if using both injectable Test C/Winny?
I'll look into Test P though, if I went with that what would be the best dose per week?

Main thing I want winny for is to increase/keep strength while I cut, would be great if it helped me stay 'solid' afterwards though too.

[PT]

test prop and winny both needs to be injected daily but you can get away with injecting test cyp once or twice a week. as for keeping strength gains when cutting, winny is great for that. it will actually help increase strentgh gains

[HOLLYWOOD.JACK]

Great, thanks!

[T-MOS]

bodyfat is a bit high for you to see great results from winny. usually best to use winny when bodyfat is in low teens to under 10% but as PT said it should help with the strength gains

test Cyp should be shot EOD, winny only had an effective life of between 8-12 hours so at minimum ED but twice a day would give you better blood levels

[bmit]

winny is not so great unless you are below AT LEAST 14% bodyfat. Cut and do cardio naturally till at 12 - 14%. Then use the winny bro. you will be much happier with it that way. Waste of money at higher bf. I know i was stupid enough to use it in my first cycle when i was around 15% bf and it really didn't do nada.

[molecule]

If u still dont wanna do just cardio then use clen and drop your bf%. with 10 weeks if winny u wil definately loose weight but not be ripped. from 18% u might come down to 12%- 10% depending on your body.

[HOLLYWOOD.JACK]

Thanks guys

[Phate]

Age: 22
Height: 5'10"
Weight: ~99KG
BF%: ~18%
Cycle: 0 injectables
Trained: 2-3 years on/off

Goal: 80KGgetting to 85KG would get you ripped, if you are 18% bf now if you went down to 80kg and lost just fat and didn't gain any muscle you would have a negative bf%
BF%: Ripped

Weeks 1-10: Test C 200mg EW why not up the dose?
Weeks 1-10: Stanozolol 50-100mg ED

PCT: Nolvadex 40/40/20/20
pct is a bit weak IMO, i would add clomid and aromasin
Other: Clenbuterol
if you are going a straight cutter you could throw in t3 as well, btw how are you running the clen? straight or 2 on 2 off
I know I could probably do this without gear but its on hand and I want to use it. Any opinions on the cycle above?

what's your diet gonna look like for this?

[HOLLYWOOD.JACK]

Well if I was happy at 85kg I'd definitely stop cutting, then just maintain for a bit
I want to avoid any chances of Gyno etc and being at 18% BF I thought 200mg (1ml) would be the safest dose

Good point, I'll add in Clomid at 50mg ED - I'll be Clen running 2-3 weeks on/2-3 weeks off

[HOLLYWOOD.JACK]

Double post.

[Phate]

Well if I was happy at 85kg I'd definitely stop cutting, then just maintain for a bit
I want to avoid any chances of Gyno etc and being at 18% BF I thought 200mg (1ml) would be the safest dose

Good point, I'll add in Clomid at 50mg ED - I'll be Clen running 2-3 weeks on/2-3 weeks off

there was a thread earlier where marcus300(one of our more experience members) was tell a kid to up his test from 250 to 500 and that the difference in sides would be negligible, this is assuming you drop your bf first

IMO, i would hold off on the cycle, run the clen and get your bf down to around 14%, then you can run a good clean bulk first cycle in which you should add some good muscle and drop somemore bf

[GauchB]

there was a thread earlier where marcus300(one of our more experience members) was tell a kid to up his test from 250 to 500 and that the difference in sides would be negligible, this is assuming you drop your bf first

IMO, i would hold off on the cycle, run the clen and get your bf down to around 14%, then you can run a good clean bulk first cycle in which you should add some good muscle and drop somemore bf

Completely agree, plus imo you are too young still.

[HOLLYWOOD.JACK]

IMO, i would hold off on the cycle, run the clen and get your bf down to around 14%, then you can run a good clean bulk first cycle in which you should add some good muscle and drop somemore bf

Will give it some thought, thanks mate. Just hate cutting and losing strength, miss the strength gains more than the size gains to be honest

[HOLLYWOOD.JACK]

Could I grab some insight on this, just doing a revise of my cycle:

Weeks 1-10: 400mg Test C EW
Weeks 1-5: 100mg Anavar ED
Weeks 6-10: 100mg Stanozolol ED

Week 12 = PCT Begins ..

Since both Anavar + Stanozolol are quite mild on the liver I assumed it'd be ok

[GauchB]

you are obvious going to do this so I would say try this
1-12 test-c 500mg
1-6 winny 50mg
6-12 var 50 mg

[GauchB]

you are obvious going to do this so I would say try this
1-12 test-c 500mg
1-6 winny 50mg
6-12 var 50 mg

[HOLLYWOOD.JACK]

Can only do Test C @ 400mg PW for 10 weeks

Why only 50mg of each?