What Test Gave u the Least Sides?

**Deltasaurus** · 03-02-2009, 06:54 PM

Thinkin of Runing 6-8 week Prop 1st cycle. im 21 soon FTW lol
Goin Test Only 1st Cycle, what do you reccomend and why?
what should i have on had and why Letro?Clomid?
60-75mgEd-Test-P is what i wanna do so far

**Dizz28** · 03-02-2009, 07:07 PM

Test Cyp...the old Testex Elmu brown 2ml amps. Those were the best I've probably ever run. Second to that are Galenika Test E amps, came out to about 1.2ml...perfect

**lord henry** · 03-02-2009, 07:14 PM

Originally Posted by Dizz28

Test Cyp...the old Testex Elmu brown 2ml amps. Those were the best I've probably ever run. Second to that are Galenika Test E amps, came out to about 1.2ml...perfect

he said he want to use prop,not cyp

**lord henry** · 03-02-2009, 07:17 PM

if you think you ready for the ed pinning then go fo it

weeks1-8 75mgs prop ed .

**Dizz28** · 03-02-2009, 07:19 PM

Originally Posted by lord henry

he said he want to use prop,not cyp

Whooops, ignore my post, imma dumbass. All i really read was the Headline

**oneshot** · 03-02-2009, 07:45 PM

ive only ran test E and test prop. never had any negative sides from either going up to 700 ew of E and 120 ed of prop.

**seriousmass** · 03-02-2009, 07:54 PM

Originally Posted by A2thej2008

Thinkin of Runing 6-8 week Prop 1st cycle. im 21 soon FTW lol
Goin Test Only 1st Cycle, what do you reccomend and why?
what should i have on had and why Letro?Clomid?
60-75mgEd-Test-P is what i wanna do so far

make sure you rotate all the inject sites with prop.

run it 8 weeks.

Have an AI on hand.. Amiridex, etc...

PCT: nolvadex , and clomid.

75mg ED is fine.

**got test?** · 03-02-2009, 08:07 PM

Being your first, it's only going to "hook" you into the sport/hobby of body building even more. Unless your just a weekend warrior looking to get big for spring break, then never go to the gym again. I'm not saying you are, but there are plenty of ppl that do this. I too would recommend the cycle to be ran 8 weeks. If you can do ED then hit up 75mg/ml ED, if not, then at least 100mg EOD, Don't stretch it to E3D. Being young, myou dont worry much about PCT. I'm glad your here and researching beforehand buddy. Whether you do my recommended dosage or not, and you take anything from this post, Read over in the PCT section, decide which PCT your going to run. Any amount of AAS is going to shut your natural levels down. Maintain yourself. If you have access to HCG , get it, Also get clomid and or nolva. If you have an AI (letro arimidex ) ect, fine, I wouldnt run it though unless your really showing signs of gyno, which a little ole 8wk prop cycle is VERY unlikely to do to you, although I guess it's not impossible as everyone is different. Swifto is VERY knowledgable in PCT info. I also have a very good post on HCG and PCT in there as well. Print it, go by it and GROW. Diet right. EAT EAT EAT

**Deltasaurus** · 03-02-2009, 10:58 PM

thanks, yeah main reason for Prop at 1st cycle is to avoid sides but i wanted to take some drol the last 4 weeks too lol, but i may also just run some test e or c, for 12-14 weeks
mainly i dont want anyone to know,or get gyno or bad sides(duh like who wants thoes)
Check me out in the members pics i have some pics from december tell me if u think im lean enough,im considering waiting another year or maybe two not sure though.
Dont wanna dabble in the Gray area of prohormones even though i have heard good things

-AJ

**Deltasaurus** · 03-02-2009, 11:32 PM

TTT Bum-pis

**Ernst** · 03-02-2009, 11:40 PM

Just make sure you have everything before you begin and I do recommend having adex and letro on hand. You may not want the first and will almost certainly not need the second, but can you really put a price on not having man boobs? Letro isn't that expensive. And it may come in handy in a future cycle anyway.

**Ernst** · 03-02-2009, 11:44 PM

Oh yeah... if you're going to use amps buy a couple extra. I know I shattered a couple on accident.

**Deltasaurus** · 03-03-2009, 03:12 PM

Last question i have a heart condition called ebsteins abnomally, i was considering not doing the AAS because of this, your thoughts? but i was under the impression that mild does has much less overall effects on the heart in general.

**MMArmour** · 03-03-2009, 03:25 PM

Prop is notorious for being one of the most painful injectable compounds around. This doesnt ALWAYS hold true but tends to be the norm. It will require ED or EOD pinning and since this is your first cycle running prop in virgin sites is prolly going to make it worse. Go with test e or c. If you dont want anyone to notice then stay away from drol. And if that is you in your avy I think itll **** to pieces your nice trim/ripped look. Drol is said to accompany alot of water retention however not through the same mechanisms as other AAS tend to.

Test will work ****ing wonders bro. If youre set on using an oral id run winny the last 5 weeks. Jmo.

As for you heart condition I dont have the knowledge needed to answer that with confidence. I would consult a doctor about this personally.

youre 21 and that typically is a bit young but i start when i was 23. I dont have much room to talk. What are your other stats bro?

**jimmyinkedup** · 03-03-2009, 04:45 PM

Originally Posted by A2thej2008

Last question i have a heart condition called ebsteins abnomally, i was considering not doing the AAS because of this, your thoughts? but i was under the impression that mild does has much less overall effects on the heart in general.

heart murmur (valve "leaking") ? I dunno re: cycling etc... I had a heart murmur all through my childhood but in my teen years it went away and has never returned. In this case its a value malformation (correct me if im wrong) so im pretty sure it wont go away.... I'd do a little research before jumping on... (btw imo you are too young)
That being said id go with test e - if diet in order etc ...test e is comparable re: sides to prop for me personally. I use prop quite a bit but order of pref re: sides (mainly h20 retention) for me goes - prop / enan / cyp / suspension (which i wont use again). Also if sides are of concern forget the drol and just do a test only. Good idea imo anyway....

**Evolutionary** · 03-04-2009, 12:39 AM

My first cycle was test p as well as tren A. I liked everything about it but sitting down.

**Evolutionary** · 03-04-2009, 12:41 AM

Originally Posted by A2thej2008

cool ill research it a little more maybe pic up a 14 week cycle and save it for a year or 2

anyone else havin anything on the subject? i really wanna get alot bigger and being american i want it NOW DAMNIT!!! LOL

-AJ

If you want bigger go with somthing like test e or C i mean test is test but you will get bulkier on the longer esters and you look ripped enough. Not to mention not having to be

the human pin cushion thing is a big plus