Cycle help?? Test Cyp and T-Bol

[Mammon]

well,ill start.. lol
no need to taper off.. keep the dose constant.. the ester will taper itself and start pct when your suppose to..

[illwillogical]

Just to give you a heads up. A lot of people are probably going to flame you from your post above. You most likely need to get your diet in check before your next cycle. Did you make any gains from your previous cycles?

As for PCT I know the consensus you are going to get would be to run nolva, clomid, and either aromasin or arimidex. I don't know, you have some knowledge, I would just research what you are looking for through these threads, and you will get a pretty good idea.

[Mammon]

what the.. is this tweaked or did i have one to many crown and cokes...
thread is all twisted.. lol

[T-MOS]

i am lost

[bigwillwill]

Age-24
Height- 5' 9"
Weight- 163 lbs
BF- ?? I can get really cut from two days worth of diet, cardio and core workout
Diet- Lean, healthy, and about 4-5 meals a day
Cycle- 4th, (1st cycle striaght sus for about 8 wks, 2nd cycle straight deca and yes now after some research i've learned that was a bad idea, 3rd cycle was sus and eq but i couldnt finish due to sus flu round wk 8)

Purpose of cycle: To do a smart, safe cycle that will put on some nice lean quailty muscle that i can keep.

I want to run 400mg of Testosterone Cypionate for wks 1-10, than tapper off wk 11 at 250mg, wk 12 at 125mg. Inject mon/thurs

I want to run turinabol weeks 1-8 at around 20-30 mgs with milk thistle. (will around 100oz of water put good enough for the liver help?)

PCT- Nolvadex for three weeks from 14 on. No AI cause i dont mind waer retention. ( should i add clomid????????????????)

My questions are (1) Oral-Turinabol is be said to be like "var vs dbol" and if that is so will i get the massive pumps that are assocated with dbol? Cuz i already get big enough pumps normal how it is.
(2) I choose test cyp beacuse it is known to put a little water wieght on which i veiw as a good thing because that helps with strgenth purposes but water retention also equals higher BP so should i go with test E instead if the water wieght is crazy like sus?

Please tell me what you think of this cycle for its purposes, what type of gains would an average joe with my stats get, and try to answers my questions. Thanks alot

[bigwillwill]

Thanks, so i need to get my PCT in check by adding clomid and a AI from the genral concensus.
And I also need to bug off with the tappering part of the cycle.

[LATS60]

Thanks, so i need to get my PCT in check by adding clomid and a AI from the genral concensus.
And I also need to bug off with the tappering part of the cycle.

You need to get your diet in check before you think about anything else.
4th cycle, 5'9, 163lbs !!!!!

[bigwillwill]

You need to get your diet in check before you think about anything else.
4th cycle, 5'9, 163lbs !!!!!

Try being a buck twenty your whole life cause of wrestling, and than come talk to me about diet

[D7M]

what the.. is this tweaked or did i have one to many crown and cokes...
thread is all twisted.. lol

wtf is going on?

Big, this is why you shouldn't leave us...