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  1. 03-04-2009, 11:21 PM #1
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    Lightbulb First Cycle, what would you do?

    Hi, I've PM'd a couple of you regarding this, but was recommended to post it to public forum.

    First cycle, TEST E Only

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    training 9 years

    11 weeks, 500mg/week, .25mg L-Dex EOD (originally ordered 10 weeks + frontload, but decided against it, so 11 weeks haha)

    PCT 2 weeks after last shot

    Clomid 100mg ED for 4 weeks
    Nolva 20mg ED for 4 weeks
    Continue .25mg L-dex EOD throughout PCT


    OR.... is this PCT better?

    Clomid 100mg ED weeks 1-2, 50mg ED weeks 3-4
    Nolva 40mg ED week 1, 20mg ED weeks 2-4
    continue .25 L-dex EOD throughout PCT


    Most people on the boards just say "that looks good"

    Is that what YOU would do?

    I'm mostly up in the air about the L-Dex, some say use it throughout, some say only use if gyno shows up, etc. I've always been thin, with low BF, so I don't think im at much risk for gyno at all buuuuuut....... I'm really concerned about ANY significant bloat/water retention, I do fitness modeling, and can't really afford to look "soft" for an extended period of time. I'm OK with the L-Dex possibly limiting gains, as i'd rather put on a solid net gain of 15-20lbs with this cycle, rather than a "swole" 25-30lbs.

    any help is appreciated
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  2. 03-04-2009, 11:26 PM #2
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    You know my thoughts.....

    lets see who else chimes in
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  3. 03-04-2009, 11:28 PM #3
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    stay on the dex at .25mg eod..

    the cycle looks perfect and, based upon your bf height and weight, i'd say your diet and training reg. is in good shape too..

    i would do the same exact thing your doing right now..

    actually i give you props for wanting to do it right and start off with a test e only cycle.. others wanna jump into compounds they're not ready for...

    in other words "that looks good"
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  4. 03-04-2009, 11:39 PM #4
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    Yeah, Lets just say lifting is kind of my career ... and i'm well educated in the training/diet department... but am just a real rookie with the gear.
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  5. 03-04-2009, 11:44 PM #5
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    go as planned man, post some before and after pics too!!!
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    I would with only quick thought put some d-bol on that bithc to kick start your shit.
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    also already mad lean maybe trow some winny or mast in or var if you got the cash.
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    I like your second PCT better

    Clomid 100mg ED weeks 1-2, 50mg ED weeks 3-4
    Nolva 40mg ED week 1, 20mg ED weeks 2-4
    continue .25 L-dex EOD throughout PCT
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    ^^ agreed
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  10. 03-04-2009, 11:57 PM #10
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    t-mos says educate before you medicate I agree but I also say if you don't have the genetics ( as good as you want them to be) use synthetics
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  11. 03-04-2009, 11:59 PM #11
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    ^^^^ bad influences.. lmao...
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  12. 03-05-2009, 12:08 AM #12
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    yeah, I am a little tempted to run the winny the last 5 weeks or so...
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  13. 03-05-2009, 12:09 AM #13
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    take your time man... you'll grow nice with just test.. you can add another compound next time around...

    unless your a spring break juicer..

    i hate spring break juicers... lmao
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    Quote Originally Posted by T-MOS View Post
    I like your second PCT better

    Clomid 100mg ED weeks 1-2, 50mg ED weeks 3-4
    Nolva 40mg ED week 1, 20mg ED weeks 2-4
    continue .25 L-dex EOD throughout PCT
    that is what i was looking at....looks good bro......
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  15. 03-05-2009, 12:12 AM #15
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    haha no, i hate even saying I do fitness modeling.... i've been an athlete all my life... just that's what's going to pay off my schooling for now
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  16. 03-05-2009, 12:13 AM #16
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    thanks for the input on the pct, pretty sure i'm going to taper it off
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    Quote Originally Posted by GauchB View Post
    t-mos says educate before you medicate I agree but I also say if you don't have the genetics ( as good as you want them to be) use synthetics
    thats a good one too...remember that when you hit 3000 posts
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    Quote Originally Posted by T-MOS View Post
    thats a good one too...remember that when you hit 3000 posts
    lmao
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    Quote Originally Posted by jamyjamjr View Post
    take your time man... you'll grow nice with just test.. you can add another compound next time around...

    unless your a spring break juicer..

    i hate spring break juicers... lmao
    I feel that!
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