noob needing advise.

**TripWest** · 03-05-2009, 06:53 PM

i have a month supply of dbol and am wanting to get eaither sustanon or winstrol to stack it with. is this a good idea? ive been lifting for 5 years but this will be my first cycle.and pretty much am lost.there are alot of acronyms on this site that i dont understand. any advise on a beginnger cycle that will be stacked with dbol? im 22 yo and 6' tall. have about 20 percent body fat so im looking to gain size and try to shed the mid section.any help is appritiated.ive been trying to read the forums but i just dont understand the lingo that is uses.excuse my stupidity.

**KatsMeow** · 03-05-2009, 06:58 PM

Your body fat is high and a treadmill can help that not a cycle.

you say you want to run either winny or sust with the dbol ? one is test and the other is an anabolic . so there is a big difference.

**RuhlFreak55** · 03-05-2009, 06:58 PM

test E 500mg a week 1-12
dbol 30-50mg a day weeks 1-4

and of course proper PCT and such

**RuhlFreak55** · 03-05-2009, 06:59 PM

kats is right....20 is a lil high to cycle at...especially a bulking cycle which is what you'd be doing with dbawlz....

**johnnybigguns** · 03-05-2009, 06:59 PM

Your still alittle young. Your Bf is too high. Diet is the only thing that will shed the fat. You have to stack it with a test. Sust is a test. I would highly recommend test e or test c though.

**RuhlFreak55** · 03-05-2009, 07:00 PM

Originally Posted by johnnybigguns

Your still alittle young. Your Bf is too high. Diet is the only thing that will shed the fat. You have to stack it with a test. Sust is a test. I would highly recommend test e or test c though.

uh oh......ruhl will be quiet now lolz

**KatsMeow** · 03-05-2009, 07:01 PM

Originally Posted by RuhlFreak55

kats is right....20 is a lil high to cycle at...especially a bulking cycle which is what you'd be doing with dbawlz....

thanks for the back up Ruhl. I don't think he is ready to cycle and needs to do a lot more research before he considers.

**CookiesN'Cream** · 03-05-2009, 07:04 PM

Well man at 20% you should first get your diet and Cardio in check, nothing wrong with 20% your probably just going to be a little bit prone to gyno, and no one wants that... as for your first cycle in the end its your choice but a beginner recommendation with some of the compounds you mentioned would be something along these lines..

Test E - weeks 1-12
D-bol 1-4 in the 40mg range

Pct

nolvadex , clomid, hcg (maybe)

**TripWest** · 03-05-2009, 07:05 PM

the BF is just a guetamate. i dought its that high.it was at 15% a month ago and ive lost weight but seemed that was muscle weight. im gonna cycle.im not lookin to get schredded.just build up some more mass. the lineman look.im not lookin for a six pack.just want to be more of a powerhouse