Test P + Test E (fisrt cycle)

[gym_wolf]

Hello fellow bodybuilders,

i was planning to do a 12 weeks Test E cycle 500 ml per week (2 shots a week) but my source could only provide me with 6 weeks supply of Test E. i do have 6 weeks supply of Test P that is gona expire the end of this month. so my questions are:-

1- is it okay to use test P even if its gona expire this month because i have been told its good to use for 2 month after expiration date?

2- what is the best way to design my cycle here plz note that i have to start with Test P since its gona expire first

3- what is the right pct to do?

status:

age 27 year old
workout out experiance 4 years of hard traning
wight 180 pounds
fat 14%

thanks alot in advance

[PT]

yes it is ok to use it even after the expiration date and i would use the test prop the 1st 6 weeks and the enth the 2nd 6 weeks. as for pct. 4 weeks of nolva and aromasin at 20mgs each is what i perfer

[gym_wolf]

thanks for the reply

what is the right does for Test P for my fist 6 weeks?

is it 50 ml ED or 100 EOD ? i am new to Test P

[magic32]

Is this your first cycle? If not, you might want to list your history before talking dosages.

I agree that it's okay to use the Prop as the potency lasts long after the stamped expiration date; some place this timing at 8mths and beyond. With regard to the cycle you'll have to think a little here. Running Prop for six weeks then starting Enth, undesirably permits the faster burning Prop ester to extinguish prior to the onset of the longer kick-in/burning Enth ester. Consequently, and based on your limited supply I'd suggest the reverse, beginning with Enth and finishing with Prop. If in the interim, you're able to acquire more of either or additional compounds, you’d obviously reconfigure your equation accordingly.

[hankdiesel]

test e week 1-6
test p week 7-12
I've done something similar with good results.

[gym_wolf]

Is this your first cycle? If not, you might want to list your history before talking dosages.

I agree that it's okay to use the Prop as the potency lasts long after the stamped expiration date; some place this timing at 8mths and beyond. With regard to the cycle you'll have to think a little here. Running Prop for six weeks then starting Enth, undesirably permits the faster burning Prop ester to extinguish prior to the onset of the longer kick-in/burning Enth ester. Consequently, and based on your limited supply I'd suggest the reverse, beginning with Enth and finishing with Prop. If in the interim, you're able to acquire more of either or additional compounds, you’d obviously reconfigure your equation accordingly.

i agree with you man but as i said my Test P will expire this month so i am not sure if delaying the test p for another 6 weeks is a good idea or not?

any other suggestions would be appreciated????

[Bigmax]

test e week 1-6
test p week 7-12
I've done something similar with good results.

Hmmm you did test E for 6 weeks...you do realize that it can take up to 4-5 weeks for the Enanthate to fully kick in...If you got results i'm sure it was the last weeks on the prop that kick in much faster.

[Bigmax]

i agree with you man but as i said my Test P will expire this month so i am not sure if delaying the test p for another 6 weeks is a good idea or not?

any other suggestions would be appreciated????

I would use the Prop as a kick start bro...go ahead and do 100mgs everyother day..along with the test E...drop the prop after 4 weeks and continue the Test E.

[Mammon]

id just try and get more gear and not mess around.. in reality you dont have enough of either to run it right.. jmo

[gym_wolf]

I would use the Prop as a kick start bro...go ahead and do 100mgs everyother day..along with the test E...drop the prop after 4 weeks and continue the Test E.

but man i only have 6 weeks supply of Test E if am gona do as u said then my whole cycle length will be 6 weeks only. i dont that would be right man?

[gym_wolf]

id just try and get more gear and not mess around.. in reality you dont have enough of either to run it right.. jmo

now i am more confused here what do u mean i dont have enough of either, their both are Test man i can run them both for 12 weeks?

anyone does agree with Mammon here?

[seriousmass]

but man i only have 6 weeks supply of Test E if am gona do as u said then my whole cycle length will be 6 weeks only. i dont that would be right man?

lol... work on your math skills!!!

4 weeks of prop + 6 weeks of test-enan = 10 week cycle.

[Kratos]

you could mix it all together and pin the mix eod

[ArlingtonTXgrown]

I would use the Prop as a kick start bro...go ahead and do 100mgs everyother day..along with the test E...drop the prop after 4 weeks and continue the Test E.

ditto.... which is what im currently doing. Good idea since prop is short ester and will kick in alot faster than enanthate. Once you drop the prop after 4 weeks, the enanthate will be kicked in.

[gym_wolf]

lol... work on your math skills!!!

4 weeks of prop + 6 weeks of test-enan = 10 week cycle.

lol and u work on ur reading skills dude

he said use the Prop as a kick start bro...go ahead and do 100mgs everyother day..along with the test E...drop the prop after 4 weeks and continue the Test E.

meaning i should start with both Test P and Test E at the same time then after week 4 i stop using the prop and just continue the Test E.

[gym_wolf]

I would use the Prop as a kick start bro...go ahead and do 100mgs everyother day..along with the test E...drop the prop after 4 weeks and continue the Test E.

okay guys i think i am gona go with bigmax idea and start with test p along with test E then drop the test p after the 4th week and continue with Test E now my question is:-

should i do 100 mg of Test p ED or EOD or maybe 50 mg ED? and what is the total dosage per week? ( plz note that i am shooting test E also 500 per week)

Test E will 500 per week spilted in 2 shots every 3.5 day.


your advice and criticism would be highly appreciated

thanks

[ArlingtonTXgrown]

okay guys i think i am gona go with bigmax idea and start with test p along with test E then drop the test p after the 4th week and continue with Test E now my question is:-

should i do 100 mg of Test p ED or EOD or maybe 50 mg ED? and what is the total dosage per week? ( plz note that i am shooting test E also 500 per week)

Test E will 500 per week spilted in 2 shots every 3.5 day.


your advice and criticism would be highly appreciated

thanks

I was told that you want to do 500mg total per week otherwise youd be doing 1000mg per week of test if you did 500mg prop and 500mg enanthate. Hope someone else chimes in but I believe you would want to do 250mg prop/250mg enanthate per week.

[gym_wolf]

any other suggestions guys???????/

[Matt]

Yes, buy some more gear...

[gym_wolf]

Yes, buy some more gear...

what are u talking about man? i have enough gear now if u have nothing usfual to say then dont say nothing

[Matt]

What does usfual mean?? If you have enough whats the problem??

[gym_wolf]

What does usfual mean?? If you have enough whats the problem??

dude read my last post i was asking about how to stack test p and test together? for the first 4 weeks i will be using both so what is the right dose here?

[Matt]

Ok ive read your first post and it doesnt make sense?? Instead of injecting 500ml pw of your test e, try 500mg and you will have enough test e for 12 weeks...

[ArlingtonTXgrown]

hes got p and e

[njgalligan]

well i have a little bit diffrent spin on this, say you run the test p for 4 weeks, then you start on the test e, wont the half life of the test p run out before the test e starts up?? my idea would be take 100mg test p eod for 4 weeks, on day 1 of week 5 drop the dosage down to 50mg eod and inject 250mg of test e once a week for the next two weeks, then when ur test p runs out go back up to 500mg of test 3 once or 250mg twice a week a week for the remainder of your cycle, that way theres not as much of a drop in your blood levels when switching your cycle from test p to test e. sound good??

[njgalligan]

does anybody think that might work a little better?

[Kratos]

well i have a little bit diffrent spin on this, say you run the test p for 4 weeks, then you start on the test e, wont the half life of the test p run out before the test e starts up?? ??

yes, that's why I told you to mix them all together. Order a big enough sterile sealed vial online and just shoot it all in there. Run it EOD until you run out.

[Kratos]

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[ArlingtonTXgrown]

yes, that's why I told you to mix them all together. Order a big enough sterile sealed vial online and just shoot it all in there. Run it EOD until you run out.

should he be running 500mg of e and 500mg of p per week or 500mg total so 250 of each? I was told 500mg total because they are both test.

[Kratos]

should he be running 500mg of e and 500mg of p per week or 500mg total so 250 of each? I was told 500mg total because they are both test.

500mg total per week whatever the split ends up being cause I'm guessing he doesn't have the same volume or concentration of both so he'll have to do a little math.