Is this a good Cycle?

**markdspader** · 03-10-2009, 08:22 PM

Im 25 about 5'7 180 Im in good shape but want to get on more of a cutting cycle. Im new to steroids but have read up on a lot of useful info on the site so i thought i would register and get some opinions on the cycle and pct im thinking about starting let me know what you guys think.

Week
1 – 10 Tren 300mg/wk
7 – 12 Winny 50mg ED
1 – 12 Nolvadex ED 10mg
12-16 Nolvadex ED 20mg/Anadrol ED 20mg

**johnnybigguns** · 03-10-2009, 08:26 PM

Horrible cycle. Do you know your body fat %

For a first cycle you should look into test e.

**markdspader** · 03-10-2009, 08:31 PM

its 21%

**markdspader** · 03-10-2009, 08:32 PM

Wow is the cycle really that bad? where did I go wrong?

**johnnybigguns** · 03-10-2009, 08:34 PM

You should have test as a base and if its a first cycle you should just run test alone. Bulking or cutting depends on diet.

**markdspader** · 03-10-2009, 08:37 PM

Well im cutting what would you recommend with the gear i have?

**C-MaN** · 03-10-2009, 08:39 PM

NO.. bro that is definitely not a good cycle. And IMo 21% bf is to hi to run AAS.. If i were you i would run Test E at 500mg a week for 12 weeks and run a proper pct. It's always good to just run one compound your first time. That way if you have side effects you know what it is from.

**johnnybigguns** · 03-10-2009, 08:40 PM

Sorry on that last post I meant diet not cycle.

I would recommend you put your gear away and save it for later down the road and get yourself some test e or test c.

Definitely never run tren on a first cycle.

**lifthard2005** · 03-10-2009, 08:40 PM

also use an AI like aromasin ......you may also use proviron

***T-MOS*** · 03-10-2009, 08:40 PM

Originally Posted by markdspader

Wow is the cycle really that bad? where did I go wrong?

well you are picking Tren for your first cycle, BAD IDEA

Tren is for your 5th or later cycle, it is one of the harshest steroids out there

you didn't have Test in your cycle, you will be shutting down your natural test, so you need to replace that unless you want problems

winny will do NOTHING for you at 21% bodyfat. it is used when your bodyfat is under 10 %

First cycle should be a single ester Test ONLY, but you need to get that bodyfat down below 15 first

**markdspader** · 03-10-2009, 08:45 PM

Ok so I guess i go with the test E at 500mg weeks. how many weeks should i go for? 12? What should i be taking with the test E nothing?

**C-MaN** · 03-10-2009, 08:49 PM

Well bro to be honest you need to research yourself. These forums will teach you everything you need to know.... trust me its best to know what exactly you are injecting into your body and what the sides are ....ect. ect.

**wingsta** · 03-10-2009, 08:54 PM

"Im new to steroids but have read up on a lot of useful info on the site"

Dont mean to be awful bro but you cant have read to much because otherwise you would have read that test should be the base of all your cycles to begin with, and you shouldnt start any cycle at above 15% BF.

You should read ALOT more. This site already has ALL the info you need about cycles and where you should be before you even consider taking roids. Read some more and stay safe

***T-MOS*** · 03-10-2009, 08:55 PM

yea, you got at least 6 months of study before you start

there is more to it then just TAKING steroids ...

there is Diet, cause steroids dont' work unless diet is correct for goals
there is PCT, cause after you shut down your HPTA, you need to take things after the cylce to ensure that you get it turned back on

you need to know these things, not just trust us to tell you what to take.
we will help you, but you need to have some understanding of all this since you are messing with the chemistry of your body

**markdspader** · 03-10-2009, 08:56 PM

Well that is true. Thats why im on here and asking the questions. I would not do it if ya"ll felt it was not safe. i guess its back to the old drawing board for me. Also my bodyfat is 18% not 21% like i had thought. had to breakout the old tape measurement on that one

**frank358fr** · 03-10-2009, 09:29 PM

its not a good cycle

**markdspader** · 03-11-2009, 05:49 PM

Ok I took out the Tren and moved some does around i believe this is good for beginner cycle what do you think? Of course im going to get my body fat below 15% first it should not be to hard im on a great diet at the moment maybe another month or so should have it around 15%.

week
1 - 12 Test Eth 250mg/twice wkly Mon/Thurs
7 – 12 Winstrol 50mg ED
1 – 12 Nolvadex ED 10mg
12-16 Nolvadex/Anadrol ED 20mg each
16-18 Nolvadex/anadrol ED 10mg each

***T-MOS*** · 03-11-2009, 05:53 PM

Originally Posted by markdspader

Ok I took out the Tren and moved some does around i believe this is good for beginner cycle what do you think? Of course im going to get my body fat below 15% first it should not be to hard im on a great diet at the moment maybe another month or so should have it around 15%.

week
1 - 12 Test Eth 250mg/twice wkly Mon/Thurs
7 – 12 Winstrol 50mg ED
1 – 12 Nolvadex ED 10mg
12-16 Nolvadex/Anadrol ED 20mg each
16-18 Nolvadex/anadrol ED 10mg each

not quite there yet!!!!!

**markdspader** · 03-11-2009, 05:55 PM

Let me guess the Winstrol you dont like? Well what if i substitute it for dbol ? i just dont want to retain water with dbol. i heard Winstrol was better at not retaining water. correct me if im wrong.