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03-11-2009, 04:54 PM #1
first cycle advice?
I'm planning my first cycle. I'm thinking of stacking sustanon with winstrol , but I'm not sure of the doses and I have read a lot of conflicting information. I am 31 years old. I'm 5'8" 150 lbs, probably a little over 10% body fat. I'm looking to put on some weight but not a ton.
I was thinking of taking 250 mg of sus every 5 days for 12 weeks. I'm really not sure what the proper dose of winny is with this.
Do I need to take clomid during this cycle? I'm planning on using clomid and HCG post cycle.
Thanks for any advice you guys can give me.
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03-11-2009, 05:02 PM #2Banned ~ Scammer
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clomid isnt much good during cycle.. great when it comes to recovery of HPTA post cycle tho.
sust id do atleast twice a week.. eod would be best.
think you would be better offf with a single ester.
winny is 50mg ed.
id spend more time learning about this stuff and know exactly what your doing before you start
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03-11-2009, 06:13 PM #3
thanks for the advice mammon. I have done a good bit of research and I am trying to clear up some conflicting information. I didn't think I would need to worry about estrogen during the cycle because winny doesn't aromatise and I will be taking a relatively small amount of sust. People I know use clomid during their cycles, but I didn't think it was necessary for the cycle I am planning. I was just looking for conformation.
250 mg Eod seems like a massive dose of sust for a steroid novice who only weighs 150 lbs. I've read that you can gain 20 lbs taking only 250 mg a week. Do I really need more than 3 times that much. I'm not interested in gaining more than about 20 lbs.
I've read a bit about the single ester arguement, and it makes sense to me, but the people I've spoken with have had great results with the sust, so I think I'm going to go with it.
50mg ed seems like a lot with the winny too. I was thinking more along the lines of 3 or 4 days a week.
anybody else want to weigh in?
can i get good results with 250 mg sust every 5 days and 50 mg winny eod? I only want to put on 20 lbs at most.Last edited by jfalco; 03-11-2009 at 06:17 PM.
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