DBOL? Bulking cycle

**Big Oz** · 03-12-2009, 09:40 AM

ok here was the plan..

test cyp 600mg 1-12
deca 450mg 1-10
dbol 30mg ed 1-4
hcg 500 iu weekly 12-14

pct 18 days after last shot of test cyp

nolva 40/20/20/20
clomid 100/50/50/50

ive run a similar cycle in the past and got good results. when i got off i lost most of it. i know dbol is great kickstart drug, but i also know it is extremely liver toxic and gets you huge fast due to high water retention. is it really worth taking dbol when 95& of your gains are water? should i take something else in its place, like anavar or maybe some prop to kick start the cycle? i want to gain lean muscle mass. is this the wrong cycle for me? im 5'9 185 lbs at around 10-12% bf. i want to get to 200lbs at 8% eventually.

**johnnybigguns** · 03-12-2009, 10:00 AM

Dbol works as a nice kick start well your waiting for other compounds to kick in. If you lost most of your gains thats your training and diet. I would consider running the test c for maybe 14 weeks and the deca to 12

**Subnoize05** · 03-12-2009, 02:21 PM

Id use prop.

**Cat316** · 03-12-2009, 03:01 PM

did you use pct after the first time...as long as u keep up training and diet youll lose some but not all....i was 155 sr year now 215 and juiced 3 times...1 a year and used d-bol everytime...i take tren with it to reduce water weight think of that or prop

**seriousmass** · 03-12-2009, 03:03 PM

Originally Posted by Big Oz

ok here was the plan..

test cyp 600mg 1-12
deca 450mg 1-10
dbol 30mg ed 1-4
hcg 500 iu weekly 12-14

pct 18 days after last shot of test cyp

nolva 40/20/20/20
clomid 100/50/50/50

ive run a similar cycle in the past and got good results. when i got off i lost most of it. i know dbol is great kickstart drug, but i also know it is extremely liver toxic and gets you huge fast due to high water retention. is it really worth taking dbol when 95& of your gains are water? should i take something else in its place, like anavar or maybe some prop to kick start the cycle? i want to gain lean muscle mass. is this the wrong cycle for me? im 5'9 185 lbs at around 10-12% bf. i want to get to 200lbs at 8% eventually.

That's going to be a sick bulking cycle.

You will definitely pack on 15 pounds, no problem.

... i might replace the deca with tren . but depends on you cycle history.

**blake.varhaug** · 03-12-2009, 03:03 PM

stats?

**Cat316** · 03-12-2009, 03:09 PM

this is mine if u want to run tren and prop

1-4 d bol 50mg
1-12 prop 100 eod
1-12 tren 100 eod
1-12 cyp 200 mg 2 times a week

week 8 up over twenty pounds and shrinkin bf since im on ephedra also

**Cat316** · 03-12-2009, 03:09 PM

28lbs to be exact

**Mammon** · 03-12-2009, 03:24 PM

yeah bro give prop a shot for the first 4 weeks if you dont want to go with the dbol ..

**Big Oz** · 03-12-2009, 03:33 PM

Originally Posted by seriousmass

That's going to be a sick bulking cycle.

You will definitely pack on 15 pounds, no problem.

... i might replace the deca with tren. but depends on you cycle history.

i took tren before. when i was young and very inexperienced. i didnt react bad to it.

**Big Oz** · 03-12-2009, 03:35 PM

so you think prop over dbol ? so
test cyp 600mg 1-12
deca 450mg 1-10
test prob eod 100 mg
hcg 500 iu weekly 12-14

pct 18 days after last shot of test cyp

nolva 40/20/20/20
clomid 100/50/50/50

dont get me wrong i love what dbol does for strength and size.. i just dont like the fact that i loose alot of it.

**Big Oz** · 03-12-2009, 03:36 PM

Originally Posted by Cat316

this is mine if u want to run tren and prop

1-4 d bol 50mg
1-12 prop 100 eod
1-12 tren 100 eod
1-12 cyp 200 mg 2 times a week

week 8 up over twenty pounds and shrinkin bf since im on ephedra also

that looks fu**in serious.. keep us posted on your gains