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    Time Vs Dosage (test e)

    Simple and to the point.

    500mg for 12 weeks

    OR

    600mg for 10 weeks


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    What are you stats and cycle history.

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    Quote Originally Posted by O2020 View Post
    Simple and to the point.

    500mg for 12 weeks

    OR

    600mg for 10 weeks


    looking for MASSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS
    Unfortunetly both will yield you the same results provided your diet and training are in check.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Muscleking89 View Post
    Unfortunetly both will yield you the same results provided your diet and training are in check.
    first you have to run it right...second you have to pct off of it right......it is true you diet and training are going to huge..

    bump for stats and past cycle....goals........and your pct...

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    My vote would be to go the longer cycle. I personally think that if you use too much of an aas (dosage wise) it can be counter-productive, although 500 vs. 600 isn't that much of a difference, I think a longer cycle should leave you more satisfied with your results.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Muscleking89 View Post
    Unfortunetly both will yield you the same results provided your diet and training are in check.
    I don't 100% agree. From my experience the 10 and 12 will give him end results the same but obviously he will have more time in the 12 to lift more and try to be more pct productive if done right imo.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Muscleking89 View Post
    Unfortunetly both will yield you the same results provided your diet and training are in check.
    Quote Originally Posted by bodybuilder200 View Post
    My vote would be to go the longer cycle. I personally think that if you use too much of an aas (dosage wise) it can be counter-productive, although 500 vs. 600 isn't that much of a difference, I think a longer cycle should leave you more satisfied with your results.
    why are we just jumping on the forum and answering question without getting all the proper infromation......lets make sure he knows what he is doing before you just say yes or no.....answer.....if we are looking at post we can meet on the post whore page......trust me I have gotten several there

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    Quote Originally Posted by prone2rage View Post
    why are we just jumping on the forum and answering question without getting all the proper infromation......lets make sure he knows what he is doing before you just say yes or no.....answer.....if we are looking at post we can meet on the post whore page......trust me I have gotten several there
    i think O2O2 said once that he was a competitive bodybuilder, i have no evidence he actually is, just pulling that from memory

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    Quote Originally Posted by prone2rage View Post
    why are we just jumping on the forum and answering question without getting all the proper infromation......lets make sure he knows what he is doing before you just say yes or no.....answer.....if we are looking at post we can meet on the post whore page......trust me I have gotten several there
    very true. and I am sorry for jumping on the wagon, good call little bro.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Phate View Post
    i think O2O2 said once that he was a competitive bodybuilder, i have no evidence he actually is, just pulling that from memory
    this.

    also, this would be my second cycle (did sus for 12 weeks, 420mg/week) I was going to do deca /test e for this cycle but i want to stick to test and dbol only for this cycle, dosage is at 300mg/ml (i have 6k total) and was wondering what the best way would be, with my personal opinion, a 12 week would be the way to go but thats why I ask, its better to get told by experts

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    Quote Originally Posted by Phate View Post
    i think O2O2 said once that he was a competitive bodybuilder, i have no evidence he actually is, just pulling that from memory
    I am an internet GOD and I will rain fire down on their ass who does not believe my word....because I am internet GOD..

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    Quote Originally Posted by O2020 View Post
    this.

    also, this would be my second cycle (did sus for 12 weeks, 420mg/week) I was going to do deca/test e for this cycle but i want to stick to test and dbol only for this cycle, dosage is at 300mg/ml (i have 6k total) and was wondering what the best way would be, with my personal opinion, a 12 week would be the way to go but thats why I ask, its better to get told by experts
    so draw it up on how you are going to run it and post it....also post your pct maybe we can help with that as well....

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    Quote Originally Posted by O2020 View Post
    this.

    also, this would be my second cycle (did sus for 12 weeks, 420mg/week) I was going to do deca/test e for this cycle but i want to stick to test and dbol only for this cycle, dosage is at 300mg/ml (i have 6k total) and was wondering what the best way would be, with my personal opinion, a 12 week would be the way to go but thats why I ask, its better to get told by experts
    personally i would go with the longer cycle for several reasons

    1) you get more training time with the gear in your system
    2) assuming your diet is high cal and clean, you have more time for your body to build muscle while in a positive nitrogen balance and while having increased protein synthesis and feed efficiency
    3) if you miss a few days then won't have the same impact as they would with a shorter cycle

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    Quote Originally Posted by Phate View Post
    personally i would go with the longer cycle for several reasons

    1) you get more training time with the gear in your system
    2) assuming your diet is high cal and clean, you have more time for your body to build muscle while in a positive nitrogen balance and while having increased protein synthesis and feed efficiency
    3) if you miss a few days then won't have the same impact as they would with a shorter cycle
    god you are good......

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    Quote Originally Posted by prone2rage View Post
    god you are good......
    i took one from you so you get partial credit for the post

    btw, i forgot the last one

    4) test enth take around 5-6 weeks to really kick in, so a longer cycle will give you more time after that initial kick in phase

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    thanks for the posts!

    Scenario 1
    Week 1-4:
    Test e 500mg/ 2 shots per week
    Dbol - 25mg

    Week 5-12
    Test e 500mg/ 2 shots per week

    Week 15
    Clomid - 100
    Nolva - 40

    Week 16
    Nolva - 40

    Week 17-18
    Nolva - 40

    it will be at hand

    Scenario 2

    Week 1 - 4
    Test e 600mg/ 2 shots per week
    Dbol 25mg

    Week 5-10
    600mg test/ 2 shots per week

    Week 13
    Clomid - 100
    Nolva - 40

    Week 14
    Nolva - 40

    Week 15-16
    Nolva - 4
    Last edited by O2020; 03-12-2009 at 08:54 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by O2020 View Post
    thanks for the posts!

    Scenario 1
    Week 1-4:
    Test e 500mg/ 2 shots per week
    Dbol - 25mg

    Week 5-12
    Test e 500mg/ 2 shots per week

    Week 15
    Clomid - 100
    Nolva - 40

    Week 16
    Nolva - 40

    Week 17-18
    Nolva - 40

    it will be at hand

    Scenario 2

    Week 1 - 4
    Test e 600mg/ 2 shots per week
    Dbol 25mg

    Week 5-10
    600mg test/ 2 shots per week

    Week 15
    Clomid - 100
    Nolva - 40

    Week 16
    Nolva - 40

    Week 17-18
    Nolva - 4
    i like scenario one alot better, in scenario 2 why is your pct staring after 4 weeks

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    Quote Originally Posted by Phate View Post
    i like scenario one alot better, in scenario 2 why is your pct staring after 4 weeks
    woops, sorry forgot to change it, just copied and pasted

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    Quote Originally Posted by O2020 View Post
    thanks for the posts!

    Scenario 1
    Week 1-4:
    Test e 500mg/ 2 shots per week
    Dbol - 25mg

    Week 5-12
    Test e 500mg/ 2 shots per week

    Week 15
    Clomid - 100
    Nolva - 40

    Week 16
    Nolva - 40

    Week 17-18
    Nolva - 40

    it will be at hand

    Scenario 2

    Week 1 - 4
    Test e 600mg/ 2 shots per week
    Dbol 25mg

    Week 5-10
    600mg test/ 2 shots per week

    Week 15
    Clomid - 100
    Nolva - 40

    Week 16
    Nolva - 40

    Week 17-18
    Nolva - 4
    I would go with Scenario 1
    bro...

    but I noticed you only ran clomid for the fist week...I dont know if that was a type o but i would run clomid at 100mg ed for the first week and 50mg ed for the next three..

    I would just keep the nolv at 20mg ed for the full four weeks. JMO

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    Quote Originally Posted by prone2rage View Post
    I would go with Scenario 1
    bro...

    but I noticed you only ran clomid for the fist week...I dont know if that was a type o but i would run clomid at 100mg ed for the first week and 50mg ed for the next three..

    I would just keep the nolv at 20mg ed for the full four weeks. JMO
    this is what i was planning, a little more indepth

    Week 1:
    Day
    1 100mg clomid/40mg nolva
    2 ###
    3 ###
    4 ###
    5 ###
    6 ###
    7 ###

    Week 2:
    Day
    1 Nolva - 40mg
    2 ###
    3 ###
    4 ###
    5 ###
    6 ###
    7 ###

    Week 3-4:
    Day
    1 Nolva - 20mg
    2 ###
    3 ###
    4 ###
    5 ###
    6 ###
    7 ###


    Could you PLEASE be my hero and fill in the blanks with what you are recommending?

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    Day 1-30- .25mg L-dex + 100mg Clomid + 20mg Nolva

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