need some help from experienced bodybuilders.

**kifenehma3ak** · 03-13-2009, 10:23 AM

i am 21 6'2 225 pounds not lean though. i want to take a 4 week cycle comprising of 100 mg every day of primo for 5 days and 100 mgs of test prop eod for 3 days. plus the pct at the end of the cycle... i want to gain about 5-7 kilos of lean mass and lose my gut.... what do u think??? thank u in advance.

**seriousmass** · 03-13-2009, 10:59 AM

Originally Posted by kifenehma3ak

i am 21 6'2 225 pounds not lean though. i want to take a 4 week cycle comprising of 100 mg every day of primo for 5 days and 100 mgs of test prop eod for 3 days. plus the pct at the end of the cycle... i want to gain about 5-7 kilos of lean mass and lose my gut.... what do u think??? thank u in advance.

You want to run a 4 week cycle of prop EOD for 3 days...?

that makes zero sense.

***T-MOS*** · 03-13-2009, 11:03 AM

what is your bodyfat %

steroids do NOT make you lose fat, your diet does that and lots of cardio

steroids are NOT safe if your bodyfat is over 15%

**Bigmax** · 03-13-2009, 11:35 AM

Originally Posted by kifenehma3ak

i am 21 6'2 225 pounds not lean though. i want to take a 4 week cycle comprising of 100 mg every day of primo for 5 days and 100 mgs of test prop eod for 3 days. plus the pct at the end of the cycle... i want to gain about 5-7 kilos of lean mass and lose my gut.... what do u think??? thank u in advance.

NO bro...you wont gain or lose anything significant in 4 weeks...re evalute your whole idea on this.

**kifenehma3ak** · 03-13-2009, 11:59 AM

when i said 3 days i meant M W F eod.

i want to do a short cycle because i dont have time... it might be 6 weeks.
how about 1000mg of primo a week with the prop

**kifenehma3ak** · 03-13-2009, 12:00 PM

when i say lose my gut i mean something that doesnt give water retention u know lean gains... i am dieting for 2 months i started this week and then in may i will start the cycle.

**seriousmass** · 03-13-2009, 12:02 PM

Originally Posted by kifenehma3ak

when i say lose my gut i mean something that doesnt give water retention u know lean gains... i am dieting for 2 months i started this week and then in may i will start the cycle.

You still haven't told us your BF% yet.

***RAGE*** · 03-13-2009, 12:08 PM

Originally Posted by kifenehma3ak

when i say lose my gut i mean something that doesnt give water retention u know lean gains... i am dieting for 2 months i started this week and then in may i will start the cycle.

bro you need to do some research before you do anything..

1. start over

2. go to the diet section and post your diet..

3. take you time and know what you are doing..

4. bump of information asked bf%

**astrix79** · 03-13-2009, 03:26 PM

Originally Posted by kifenehma3ak

i am 21 6'2 225 pounds not lean though. i want to take a 4 week cycle comprising of 100 mg every day of primo for 5 days and 100 mgs of test prop eod for 3 days. plus the pct at the end of the cycle... i want to gain about 5-7 kilos of lean mass and lose my gut.... what do u think??? thank u in advance.

dude you need to do some serious research!!!

4 week cycle and gain 5-7kg in lean mass if you want that then you need a f**** miracle!

and post your stats plz sow we can help you...

**astrix79** · 03-13-2009, 03:27 PM

Originally Posted by prone2rage

bro you need to do some research before you do anything..

1. start over

2. go to the diet section and post your diet..

3. take you time and know what you are doing..

4. bump of information asked bf%

totally agree

**kifenehma3ak** · 03-13-2009, 05:15 PM

stats??? ok 21 6'2 225 pounds... i dont know what my bodyfat is but by the time i travel back home it will be less than 15%... now when it comes to diet i'll have high protein, moderate fats and i will cycle the carbs(i hope i am being clear)... workout wise i am more of a mike mentzer/dorian yates style bodybuilder. i have about 8 weeks i was thinking 6-7 weeks and the last week the hcg and then the clomid... if i am mistaken here please correct me... ok i have a 37 inch waist, maybe a little bit less.but slowly mowly.... i think this is a little bit more detailed...

**kifenehma3ak** · 03-13-2009, 05:16 PM

ok maybe not 7... 5 would be nice... am i close?

**MD22** · 03-13-2009, 06:18 PM

Originally Posted by kifenehma3ak

when i said 3 days i meant M W F eod.

i want to do a short cycle because i dont have time... it might be 6 weeks.
how about 1000mg of primo a week with the prop

If you're worried about not having enough time, cutting it short isn't going to do you any good. IMO wait till you have the time to commit to a full well planned out cycle.

***RAGE*** · 03-13-2009, 06:46 PM

Originally Posted by kifenehma3ak

stats??? ok 21 6'2 225 pounds... i dont know what my bodyfat is but by the time i travel back home it will be less than 15%... now when it comes to diet i'll have high protein, moderate fats and i will cycle the carbs(i hope i am being clear)... workout wise i am more of a mike mentzer/dorian yates style bodybuilder. i have about 8 weeks i was thinking 6-7 weeks and the last week the hcg and then the clomid... if i am mistaken here please correct me... ok i have a 37 inch waist, maybe a little bit less.but slowly mowly.... i think this is a little bit more detailed...

you are only 21 years old....IMO you are to young for the gear....I am sure most people here are going to tell you the same thing.....if you want to cut you diet and cardio will cut you faster then any gear out there.....your body is making all it needs.

Iike I said before post you diet....

good luck..

**T_Own** · 03-13-2009, 07:01 PM

oh my... need some serious research in all areas here

now i know why i moved to the lounge.. back i go

**bmit** · 03-13-2009, 07:19 PM

listen to the people giving you advice. There a lot of very knowledgeable people here. Use cardio and diet to get down to 12%. And steroids at 21 (unless you plan on becoming a professional bodybuilder or athlete) is not bright..... at all. I waited till 25, you should do. Your body is producing great amounts of test and growth hormone itself.