smallest effect amount of tren?

**RoidBoid** · 03-16-2009, 12:04 AM

what would you say the smallest amoount i could get way with using per week, to cut down or stop sides, ive got hair issues and also cardio daily is my job , would any amount of tren kill my cardio?

**stpete** · 03-16-2009, 02:29 AM

I would think that 50mg ed minimum. And yes, your cardio will suffer.

**XNathan** · 03-16-2009, 03:37 AM

IMO 25mg ED is low but working dose for strenght and hardness.. nothink mad but noticable and not much sides beside spot pain. For me was 50mg ED just cough, cough and again cought with poor sleep.

**Dizz28** · 03-16-2009, 04:42 AM

I would agree with XNathan... 25mgs would probably be the smallest effective dose. Doesn't take much

**RoidBoid** · 03-16-2009, 10:51 AM

would 25mg effect cardio? so i would see results from 25mg ed

**Dukkit** · 03-16-2009, 10:54 AM

depends. i know ppl who run 350 a week when they cut to help keep strength up during calorie depleting. and it wont crush your cardio too badly.
and at that dose. sides are pretty much zilch.

ive ran it at 400 a week and cardio was just barely affected

and ive also ran it at 700 a week and couldnt walk up steps without gasping for air! hah

so id say 300 to 350 a week would be what your looking for
it will still give decent stregnth and mass gains at that dose but without killin you in terms of sides

**hankdiesel** · 03-16-2009, 10:55 AM

Originally Posted by RoidBoid

would 25mg effect cardio? so i would see results from 25mg ed

In my experience if a moderate dose is used, cadio is not effected that much. That side effect is slightly over rated imo.

**RoidBoid** · 03-16-2009, 11:00 AM

well guys my cardio is my job, 2-3 hours intense cardio daily, 70-80% for about 2 of the 3 hours. so if i ran it at 25 a day that would bring me out at 250mg weekly, would this be a good builder and also not effect hair & cardio ?

**The Deuce** · 03-16-2009, 12:38 PM

Originally Posted by RoidBoid

well guys my cardio is my job, 2-3 hours intense cardio daily, 70-80% for about 2 of the 3 hours. so if i ran it at 25 a day that would bring me out at 250mg weekly, would this be a good builder and also not effect hair & cardio ?

25 mgs ed in a week does not equal 250 mgs ... mathematics... it would be 175 mgs EW at 25 mgs ED. Just thought I would POINT that out...

**RoidBoid** · 03-16-2009, 12:59 PM

lol ooops, sorry about that .. maybe i need some classes lol , 175mg weekly is enough?

**Dukkit** · 03-16-2009, 01:01 PM

Originally Posted by RoidBoid

lol ooops, sorry about that .. maybe i need some classes lol , 175mg weekly is enough?

i would say thats too low. yeah it wouldnt give you any sides.... but it wouldnt give you any results either

lol

id go 250 minimum. 350 max

better yet... just go 300 lol

**christiansteele** · 03-17-2009, 01:32 PM

I would try the tren Enathate it seems to keep my moods,stability, and sides in check where tren A i cant take beacuse it makes me crazy but with tren E i am still on edge but only half as bad

**steropower** · 03-18-2009, 02:25 AM

Originally Posted by RoidBoid

well guys my cardio is my job, 2-3 hours intense cardio daily, 70-80% for about 2 of the 3 hours. so if i ran it at 25 a day that would bring me out at 250mg weekly, would this be a good builder and also not effect hair & cardio ?

If cardio is your job why do you want to do Tren ?

I don't think you will have any benefit from it at such a low dose.

I am into 75mg EOD and don't feel any better than 30mg of Dbol in terms of gains.I may go up to 100mg but that's the limit.

Although i haven't got any bad sides as cough and insomnia yet i experience the shortness of breath in heavy sets of high reps like i was smoking previous days.

I am into 4th week of Tren A/Prop right now.So far so good.Nothing to rave about though..normal strength and weight gains.

**stpete** · 03-18-2009, 04:25 AM

Originally Posted by dukkitdalaw

i would say thats too low. yeah it wouldnt give you any sides.... but it wouldnt give you any results either

lol

id go 250 minimum. 350 max

better yet... just go 300 lol

This is what my original thought was. Why even bother at those dosages.