caber dosage

[jamyjamjr]

so im about to start doing tren ace today at 50mg ed with 50mg ed prop... i was having ed problems up untill this weekend, a mixture of a-dex for a bit and two low dosages of letro at .25mg made the situation fesable.... i took everyones advice and got some caber... it's in liquid form and says 500mcg/ml.. it's a 30ml vial... do you recommend taking the caber at the start of cycle??? what dosage should i use?? should i wait till i see signs of issues??.. the god damn search button sucks for some reason when it comes to caber for some reason, so that's why im asking.... ill be waitin on your platunum advice guys.. thx

[MMArmour]

The How To Use Caber Thread

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I have had a few PM’s and came across too many threads inquiring about Cabergoline. Its uses, doses, sides and the like. So in this post I am going to give a bit of the information that I have come across and learned in my time.

What is Cabergoline?
>CABERGOLINE (Dostinex) – Caber is a very potent Dopamine Agonist. It acts on dopamine receptors in the hypothalamus to suppress prolactin production in the pituitary gland. It is used for Hyperprolactinemia. (elevated levels of prolactin in blood) It is also used in treatment of Parkinsons Disease. Now Ill get deeper into what the hell all that means a little further on.

>Half Life = 63-69 Hours. So I recommend to take Caber every third day. That’s at the far end of the range of its half life. Though this is what the dosing is for patients and studies that have been done and it works just fine. If you’re a stickler for dosing everything correctly I would obviously dose it every 2 and ½ days.

>Taking your dose of Caber before bed. (with or without food) will minimize your experience of sides.

- Documented Sides– (bad sides) Fatigue, nausea, dizziness, vertigo, headache, slightly abnormal vision, hot flashes. Now before you get all scared and think oh I cant take this. These sides were mostly reported when taking higher doses (1g+ a week) then we will be taking for our cycles. Also Caber has been found in some instances to increase the affects of Depression Medication. Word to the wise for those members using said meds.
-Other Sides- (good sides) I have not come across any scientific studies documenting them but many users have reported are…Increased Sex Drive, Stronger Erections, More Powerful Orgasms, Taking Less Time to Achieve A Full Erection after Ejactulation. And I will attest to the fact that those sides do happen. I have experienced all the “good sides” first hand. Also I have not experienced any of the “bad sides” ever.
There are even ppl who have been taking Caber only for the specific reason of the sexual sides. Now I of course do not condone this and would only recommend using Caber in conjuction with an AAS cycle.

-Another big thing I have heard members cry about as a reason not to take Caber, is that it has been found to cause Heart Valve Damage. This is true but as I stated earlier, only at a lot higher doses (3mg/per day!!) then we will be using. So stop whining.

-If for some reason you are prone to sides for any and everything, reducing your dose, while continuing the Caber will improve the severity of the sides. So basically if you experience a slight amount of sides at any given dose. Lower your dose until the sides fade but don’t stop using the caber! I would prefer some of the lesser sides of Caber to those of Tren and Deca any day.

How much Caber to use and when?
I prefer to use Caber while running any 19-Nor. (tren, deca) They affect the thyroid by lowering it (hypothyroidism) which causes the body to release more prolactin in the blood stream. (note- an overactive thyroid can cause elevated prolactin levels also) Prolactin at high levels has the affect of lowering sex drive and causing erectile dysfunction. We call it deca and fina dick. And from first hand experience, deca dick is not fun!! Tren is also a Progestin, it bonds to the receptor of the female sex hormone Progesterone. Which is responsible for preparing the body for milk production. I.E. By raising prolactin. So in order to avoid all that. Its best to run Caber from the very beginning of the cycle. I even prefer to run it into PCT for an extra boost.

STARTING DOSE – Beginning dose of Caber for use on cycle would be .25mg taken twice a week. For a total of .50 mg a week. Notice the point in front of the 25. Its not 25mg!! Its .25mg
This dose is usually enough for an 8 week Tren cycle. If your prone to sides, running deca/tren E, or just running the Tren A longer. Then take the .50 mg/per week for 4 weeks and then bump it up another .25mg a week. For a total of .75mg per week. If sides from the gear are very bad, you can even bump it up to a total of 1mg a week. You can continue to up your dose (only if your experiencing sides from Tren/Deca) of the Caber every 4 weeks until you have reached a maximum dose of 1mg twice a week or 2mg per week. But there is no reason to go no where near that high. If your still experiencing sides at 1mg/per week then your Caber is bunk or there is more serious underlying causes at work.
I was taking .5mg/p/w of Caber during a cycle with high doses of Tren. I actually didn’t have any fina dick problems but I did start Lactating! Yes my nipples were leaking. (its called Galactorrhea = lactation in the absence of nursing) lol So then I bumped up my dose to .50mg at 2 times a week (1mg/week) and the milk juice went away within a week. Other then that, I have had no problems and nothing but good experiences while taking Caber.

Now to give you an idea of the doses that are being taken by Parkinsons Disease and other Patients,
• Parkinson's disease: Monotherapy: Initial dose should be 0.5 mg daily. The usual maintenance dose is 2 to 4 mg daily. Combination therapy: Usually 2 to 6 mg daily.
• Tumors of the pituitary gland and other hyperprolactinemic conditions: Initially 0.5 mg per week, slowly titrated to 4.5 mg per week, if necessary.
• Note – Caber is not approved in the U.S. for the treatment of Parkinsons.
You can see why they would experience the sides that I stated above. Since we are no where near those doses, we should not experience any sides other then the “good ones.”

Caber for PCT – Basically the same dosing as during cycle. I would go with a good dose of .50per/week to 1mg per/week. You are not taking the Caber during PCT for its affects on Prolactin because the use of it during cycle will negate any of the prolactin affects. I use caber during PCT to help with the lowered sex drive and slight decrease in the strength of your erections. It will give a little bump to your sex drive and give you slightly more powerful erections. During PCT while many experience depression and such, knowing that you can still get it nice and hard when you want is always a plus in my book. Since Caber is also known for helping prevent gyno. Theres another reason to use it during PCT. I run Caber during every PCT and have found that it does help a great deal.

A lot of ppl put off adding Caber to their cycles because of the price and availability of it. But if you have access to and can afford it. I highly recommend Caber as an addition to your cycle and PCT.

-Dukkit

Knew I forgot something. If you do find liquid Caber... most liquid caber is known for losing its strength over a period of time. A month or so and the strength will slowly decrease. (dont know why, but i know from first hand experience) So if thats all you can obtain then you can use slightly higher dosing levels towards the end of the cycle/PCT. To make up for the loss of the compounds strength. But dont go crazy.

*Caber is associated with the above noted side affects. Though those sides are less common and less severe then sides experienced while using Bromocriptine. For the record.

Compliments of Dukkitdalaw*

[The Deuce]

Thank you brotha !! I was looking for that myself !!! LOL


OK so check this... I have caber dosed at 15 mgs in 30 ml's of solution.... Hence 2 mgs per ml... so in essence I should take 1/8th of an ml twice per week??? That's going to be friggen difficult to get right on the money... d@mnit !!! UGH .. I'll figure it out...

[DannoMight]

Thank you brotha !! I was looking for that myself !!! LOL


OK so check this... I have caber dosed at 15 mgs in 30 ml's of solution.... Hence 2 mgs per ml... so in essence I should take 1/8th of an ml twice per week??? That's going to be friggen difficult to get right on the money... d@mnit !!! UGH .. I'll figure it out...

a slin pin may do decent for you right about now. pending the solution its in. or you can backload it in by pulling the plunger out and squirting it in the backdoor

[jamyjamjr]

soooo wtf is 500mcg??? and how does that work out to .25mg a week?

[jamyjamjr]

plus i have t3 at 200mcg/ml liquid.. how much of that should i take since tren causes hypothyroidism

[Phate]

soooo wtf is 500mcg??? and how does that work out to .25mg a week?

1000mcg=1mg

.25mg=250mcg

highlight what you are referring to and i'll look at it

[jamyjamjr]

^^ that explains alot... should i be doing .25mg of t3 ed and and .25mg of caber e3d??? does that sound about right... 2 1/2 days is what the article says, but how would u do that if you were to take it right befor bed??

[jamyjamjr]

bump

[jamyjamjr]

bump, plus i experianced my first night of tren nightmares... freakin weird, talk about temporary psychosis

[Dukkit]

^^ that explains alot... should i be doing .25mg of t3 ed and and .25mg of caber e3d??? does that sound about right... 2 1/2 days is what the article says, but how would u do that if you were to take it right befor bed??

that is correct

if your stuff is where i think its from... then you do half a ml ( the dropper it comes with is 1 ml when full) so half the dropper.... 2 times a week

[Dukkit]

and you can do it 2 days a week and it will work just fine.
dont worry about the 2 1/2 day thing. 2 times a week will keep the levels stable and it will do the job its needed to do.

[jamyjamjr]

and you can do it 2 days a week and it will work just fine.
dont worry about the 2 1/2 day thing. 2 times a week will keep the levels stable and it will do the job its needed to do.

appreciate the help.. your right on about the stuff, but i use a syringe to measure out 1/2ml... how about the t3 dosage?? whats the frequency and dosage of that?? plus i heard you should be taking b12 shots while doing tren , what's the dosage and frequency of that???

thx

[Dukkit]

appreciate the help.. your right on about the stuff, but i use a syringe to measure out 1/2ml... how about the t3 dosage?? whats the frequency and dosage of that?? plus i heard you should be taking b12 shots while doing tren , what's the dosage and frequency of that???

thx

i dont run t3 or b12 while running tren. never needed too. so youll have to wait for other ppl to chime in on that

when i do run b12 (never while cycling though) i run 500mcg at every other day

[Phate]

appreciate the help.. your right on about the stuff, but i use a syringe to measure out 1/2ml... how about the t3 dosage?? whats the frequency and dosage of that?? plus i heard you should be taking b12 shots while doing tren , what's the dosage and frequency of that???

thx

if you want to replace your natural t3 production then you can take between 12.5 and 25mcg ed of t3 (with your concentration 25mcg would be easiest)

[Dukkit]

i still havent came across any info that has made me see the need to run T3 during a tren cycle. so until that happens... ill just be sittin here with a syring sticking out my quad. lol

[jamyjamjr]

Ironically, even though Tren is an excellent contest prep drug, it lowers your thyroid level(23), and this raises prolactin. I recommend taking T3 (25mcgs/day) along with your Tren to avoid elevating your prolactin too high via this route.
this is sourced from steroid .com

[jamyjamjr]

bump.. no rebuttle on this one guys?

[Phate]

if you want to replace your natural t3 production then you can take between 12.5 and 25mcg ed of t3 (with your concentration 25mcg would be easiest)

Ironically, even though Tren is an excellent contest prep drug, it lowers your thyroid level(23), and this raises prolactin. I recommend taking T3 (25mcgs/day) along with your Tren to avoid elevating your prolactin too high via this route.
this is sourced from steroid.com

bump.. no rebuttle on this one guys?

not from my end, basically what i said

[jamyjamjr]

thx phate... hey i heard your the diet guru of the forum... you mind lookin at mine n doin some fine tuning??

[The Deuce]

I just dont think I will ever run T3... I do just fine without...

[jamyjamjr]

hey... this is why i do research.... educate before you medicate (yea t-mos, i know it's your line)

[Phate]

thx phate... hey i heard your the diet guru of the forum... you mind lookin at mine n doin some fine tuning??

while i thank you for the compliment, nark is the best diet person on here by far IMO, that being said i'll help as much as i can, go ahead and post it in the diet forum and we'll get on it

I just dont think I will ever run T3... I do just fine without...

i ran it once with clen and noticed muscle loss within a few weeks, never again for me, still have the bottle in my cabinet

[jamyjamjr]

^^^ now that's something i would take into great consideration... i think ill hold off on the t3 for now....

but were you taking tren with it??? tren has very high anti-catabolic characteristic

[Phate]

^^^ now that's something i would take into great consideration... i think ill hold off on the t3 for now....

but were you taking tren with it??? tren has very high anti-catabolic characteristic

i don't cycle yet, i'm 19 so it's not really an option right now sadly, but i was running 350g of protein a day, and using every trick i know to keep from losing muscle and i still lost some

[BloodyBillAnderson]

Thank you brotha !! I was looking for that myself !!! LOL


OK so check this... I have caber dosed at 15 mgs in 30 ml's of solution.... Hence 2 mgs per ml... so in essence I should take 1/8th of an ml twice per week??? That's going to be friggen difficult to get right on the money... d@mnit !!! UGH .. I'll figure it out...

If it is 15mg in 30ml that would make .5mg per ml not 2mg. I use .5mg twice a week, so 2ml per week.

[jamyjamjr]

i don't cycle yet, i'm 19 so it's not really an option right now sadly, but i was running 350g of protein a day, and using every trick i know to keep from losing muscle and i still lost some

dude... lmao i would have never guessed.... good for you man.. shows alot