tren a and sleep

**jamyjamjr** · 03-19-2009, 02:02 AM

running tren and prop 50mg ed each.... wondering what the average amount of sleep is for some of you more experienced and side proned tren users... i need a reference as to how bad my sides are and can be safely.....

had a hard time sleepin last night... 2hrs broken is all i got.. started the tren 2 days ago, been runnin test for about 5 weeks..

cant sleep tnite either... got my heart racin..

wanted to know how typical this is...

dont get me wrong.. i already love the way it makes me feel.. this sht is amazing... i feel like an animal

**tripmachine** · 03-19-2009, 02:42 AM

well last summer i was on tren e for 10 weeks at 400mg / week.... also test e 500mg / week. Was taking adderall xr 30mg 2x daily as well. I couldn't sleep until about 3-4 a.m. and i would wake at 8 a.m. It sucked..... I bet my gains could have been better if i could have slept more. Now a days I laid off the adderall and make sure i force myself to sleep sooner. That was my only tren cycle but I just started another one a few days ago.. tren e again. =P

**jamyjamjr** · 03-19-2009, 03:11 AM

**** it.. after doing more research it seems my sleep is ****ed.. it's not like it was great before, im an insomniac when im manic (im bipolar) so im used to it....

im doing homework right now... it's 2am....

fcuk sleep, ill sleep when im dead....

im a proactive mtrfcuker

**stpete** · 03-19-2009, 03:37 AM

I average 5-6 hrs a night. You get used to it. I know some people inject late at night and that keeps them up for awhile. I prefer morning injects myself.

**jamyjamjr** · 03-19-2009, 03:40 AM

^^^ we're on the same page....

funny thing.. no night sweats yet.. i do feel like im running a bit hotter in the day time and take some tynenol, but it's not much of a bother

**stpete** · 03-19-2009, 03:51 AM

Originally Posted by jamyjamjr

^^^ we're on the same page....

funny thing.. no night sweats yet.. i do feel like im running a bit hotter in the day time and take some tynenol, but it's not much of a bother

Hell you're not sleeping long enough to get them yet. hahahaha...
Yea, you're going to be a bit hotter and sweat much easier but it's worth it. Good luck man and keep us posted.

**jamyjamjr** · 03-19-2009, 04:01 AM

yea... i just did some benadryl about 65mg... i had actually taken 1mg of xanax and to my stupid mistaken behavior tried a certain herb..... that's the last time i do that... none of it helped

**mx3** · 03-19-2009, 11:00 AM

ambien is the only way to go. I would not ever sleep on tren if I didn't have ambien and even then Im still lucky to get 4 or 5 hours.

**xxterxx** · 03-19-2009, 11:26 AM

i barely get 6 hours on test and deca cycle... i wouldnt wanna try tren ...

my magic pill was some midazolam... very addictive though...

**jamyjamjr** · 03-19-2009, 02:13 PM

statis update.. the benadryl did it for me.. just woke up from 7hrs of sleep.. no nightmares... no night sweats...

**domeyeahaigh** · 03-19-2009, 02:16 PM

Originally Posted by mx3

ambien is the only way to go. I would not ever sleep on tren if I didn't have ambien and even then Im still lucky to get 4 or 5 hours.

bump

**jamyjamjr** · 03-19-2009, 06:02 PM

dude... i was losing my mind yesterday, couldn't think clearly, mood swings... this is the devils jucie... feel alot better now thx to the sleep.... hopefully the benadryl will do the same thing for me tnite... im scared shitless to take my pre-workout shake that has caffinee in it... lmao, what a compound....

**Hazard** · 03-19-2009, 06:12 PM

I've ran tren 3 times. Twice tren A and once Tren E - ALL 3 times i had night sweats soooooooo bad that my sheets were completely soaked! The night sweats were what kept me up.... I think i slept for about 3 hours and then had to move to the couch - then another 2 hours or so..... No trouble falling asleep..... just staying asleep.

~Haz~

**Gears** · 03-19-2009, 06:17 PM

At 700mg/wk I usually can only clear 4-5hrs of bad sleep. The only thing that helped me is some plant, that'll put me out for a good 10hrs not to mention its much safer than a lot of sleeping pills.

**The Deuce** · 03-19-2009, 06:31 PM

Ambien works wonders !!!

**mxnick76** · 03-19-2009, 09:50 PM

im 2 weeks into my test p and tren a cycle, (75mg test p and 50mg tren a ED) and my sleep sucks lol. a good night is 6 hours and only getting up twice. the only time i feel tired in the day is mid afternoon befor my next shot. the cough is here full bore... boo! how are your dreams? mine are so random and out there and feel like they last forever. i wake up going WTF?!?! after every sleep

**UncleTim** · 03-19-2009, 10:00 PM

Side were too bad ED. Had to switch to EOD at 75mg. Cough, sweats and sleeplessness went away for the most part and gains were still decent, tho were much better when I was hitting ED. Next cycle I might try 50mg ED and see how that works.

**jamyjamjr** · 03-20-2009, 12:29 AM

weird... i dunno why it affected me soo damn bad night one... what ever, shit happens.. ill keep you guys posted on how it goes tnite... i already took the benadryl at 50mg and added 1mg xanax... dont like xanax much... gonna go to the doc for an ambian script

**Phate** · 03-20-2009, 12:47 AM

Originally Posted by jamyjamjr

weird... i dunno why it affected me soo damn bad night one... what ever, shit happens.. ill keep you guys posted on how it goes tnite... i already took the benadryl at 50mg and added 1mg xanax... dont like xanax much... gonna go to the doc for an ambian script

just don't take high doses of benedryl and melatonin at the same time, when i did it was the scariest night of my life, caused a hypertension, supersensation, skyrocketed heartrate, etc... scared me to death

btw i found your diet thread

**yellowledbetter** · 03-20-2009, 01:19 AM

I never had problems with Tren A, i took 75mg ED, however i do take Ambien. My only sides were sweating during the day, aggression and Tren cough accasionaly.

**stpete** · 03-20-2009, 05:35 AM

If i really need it and in bad shape as far as sleep goes, i'll take some Tylenol PM. It works but you have to make sure you can try to sleep for 8 hours. It messes me up bad if i take it and only get 5 hrs of sleep and get up.

**Dukkit** · 03-20-2009, 06:53 AM

i didnt have too many sleeping problems on tren . i would have sex 2-3 times before bed. take some melanotan. and have a double shot of hot green tea

id sleep pretty well.

id sweat my ass off. but id sleep

and no dreams.

but thats me

**jamyjamjr** · 03-20-2009, 05:20 PM

Originally Posted by Phate

just don't take high doses of benedryl and melatonin at the same time, when i did it was the scariest night of my life, caused a hypertension, supersensation, skyrocketed heartrate, etc... scared me to death

btw i found your diet thread

thank god.. i wasn't getting anything up there..

**Phate** · 03-20-2009, 05:22 PM

Originally Posted by jamyjamjr

thank god.. i wasn't getting anything up there..

don't worry bro, i got ya, next time if you have to bump it more than once pm me and i'll go look at it, i didn't even know it was there, anyway, time for legs, i'll check it again when i get back

**jamyjamjr** · 03-20-2009, 05:23 PM

slept like a baby last night.. no night sweats... 7 1/2 hrs.. should i up the dosage????? aggression is a big time issue right now.. blew up at my chick yesterday

**MMArmour** · 03-20-2009, 05:27 PM

wow.

**Mad HaTTer** · 03-20-2009, 09:26 PM

you sure you want to up the dose if aggression is a "big time issue"??

**jamyjamjr** · 03-20-2009, 09:43 PM

that's why it was in question form...

**jamyjamjr** · 03-20-2009, 09:44 PM

i started to sweat a bit more today throughout the day, but my jobs a little physical and it's hotter then usual.. ill keep you guys posted on how tnite goes, seeing as how i have no life and ill be going to bed early cuz i wanna go feel like an animal at the gym again tomorrow..... good times

**jamyjamjr** · 03-21-2009, 10:50 AM

another update... got 9 hours in last night... no night sweats... i think i had a nightmare, but i can only rememeber bits and pieces... nothing that woke me up.....

**Phate** · 03-21-2009, 10:54 AM

Originally Posted by jamyjamjr

another update... got 9 hours in last night... no night sweats... i think i had a nightmare, but i can only rememeber bits and pieces... nothing that woke me up.....

glad to hear it, lol, it must have been the warm welcome your "ticked off at the diet forum" thread got that soothed you into such a peaceful sleep

**Big** · 03-21-2009, 10:55 AM

for me the tren issues with sleep and nightmares are intermittent. When I first introduce tren into the cycle, as it starts to take effect I notice the really weird dreams, I actually enjoy them. I never seem to get enough sleep whether on tren or off, so insomnia isn't increased. After a week or so I seem to adjust, and for the duration of the cycle I don't have any sleep issues. I kind of wish I did, I wouldn't mind having those weird vivid dreams every night.

**jamyjamjr** · 03-21-2009, 10:56 AM

Originally Posted by Phate

glad to hear it, lol, it must have been the warm welcome your "ticked off at the diet forum" thread got that soothed you into such a peaceful sleep

haha phate.... i think i actually got some peoples attention though.... it sucked waiting for days for a response.. good lookin

**jamyjamjr** · 03-21-2009, 10:57 AM

Originally Posted by Big

for me the tren issues with sleep and nightmares are intermittent. When I first introduce tren into the cycle, as it starts to take effect I notice the really weird dreams, I actually enjoy them. I never seem to get enough sleep whether on tren or off, so insomnia isn't increased. After a week or so I seem to adjust, and for the duration of the cycle I don't have any sleep issues. I kind of wish I did, I wouldn't mind having those weird vivid dreams every night.

ill tell ya one thing, if my sides were to stay the way they did day 1 and 2, i dont think i'd be able to finish the cycle, seeing as how im in school.... im glad it subsided just a bit.. but im also tempted to move up the dosage from 50 to like 60-65mg ed.. what you guys think??

**Big** · 03-21-2009, 11:02 AM

that's what I like about tren a, you can tweak your dosages up and down and within a few days you know how you feel at that dose. I say bump it up a bit if you like, monitor yourself for a few days and go from there.

**jamyjamjr** · 03-21-2009, 11:03 AM

thx big.. ill use this thread as a log for my sides and sleep and keep you guys posted

**RANA** · 03-22-2009, 07:29 PM

Bump, good thread regarding Tren A

**jamyjamjr** · 03-23-2009, 02:59 AM

havn't passed out yet tonight... but i was gettin layed... good stuff... bit too much sweat, but my chick was far from complaining.... again and again and again,,,,
tired as shit though, my eye's are closing as we speak, so i think imma call it a night after im done with my thread rounds....

thank you TEST, i love getting layed.....

**csavage0** · 03-23-2009, 07:32 AM

5-6 hours sleep with me at 50 mg ed. Night sweats woke me I couldnt have a chick in my bed or covers on me. Gains were much worth it though...

**jamyjamjr** · 03-23-2009, 09:48 AM

ghb, the roofie date rape drug....

this is a great drug for bodybuilders because it's known to shoot you into REM sleep alot quicker then usual, letting your body recover at a much more optimum level...

come to think of it, i think it would be a great thing to run with tren for insomnia it causes....