Tren E Dosing

**power10er** · 03-19-2009, 10:30 AM

I am interested in adding Tren E to my cycle but I have found several conflicting dosing ideas. Below is my 12 wk cycle plan. Any suggestions and advice on adding Tren E and the dosage would be appreciated.

Weeks 1-12
Test E - 500mg/wk
Eq - 400mg/wk
Arimidex - .5mg/day

Weeks 5-12
Winstrol - 50mg/day (may sub var for winstrol?)

6 Weeks PCT:
Arimidex - 20mg/day (weeks 1-3)
Nolvadex - 20mg/day
HCG - 500iu/day

**johnnybigguns** · 03-19-2009, 10:33 AM

What are your stats?

**Mammon** · 03-19-2009, 10:34 AM

and cycle history

**power10er** · 03-19-2009, 10:40 AM

Originally Posted by johnnybigguns

What are your stats?

I am 32. 6'0" 200lbs
14-16%BF

BF is high I know but I am almost done rehabing from back surgery and I plan to restart my diet and heavy cardio as soon as I am released. Won't start my cycle until I get my BF back around 10-12% and diet back where I want it.

**johnnybigguns** · 03-19-2009, 10:43 AM

Whats your cycle history?

**power10er** · 03-19-2009, 10:44 AM

Originally Posted by Mammon

and cycle history

This will be my 3rd cycle
First cycle was Test E only at 500mg/wk for 10 wks
Second cycle was identical to the one I listed in the post with a few differences in the PCT

**power10er** · 03-19-2009, 10:46 AM

One other thing. I have read a lot of rage about var and its fat cutting ability as opposed to winstrol . Any thoughts?

**Lean1038** · 03-19-2009, 10:47 AM

Regardless of AAS experience, the addition of Trenbolone will significantly hinder your capacity for this "Cardio heavy" gameplan.

Test/EQ/Var or Winny would be great for endurance and your goals.

**johnnybigguns** · 03-19-2009, 10:47 AM

IMO I would drop the EQ its pretty week.
And if you wanted to try tren e I would try it at 350mg per week.
But it is suggested for a first tren run to use tren ace just encase the sides are bad.
Also I wouldn't run arimidex through the cycle unless you need it for sides.
Aand I would start it at .25 EOD

**Lean1038** · 03-19-2009, 10:48 AM

Originally Posted by power10er

One other thing. I have read a lot of rage about var and its fat cutting ability as opposed to winstrol. Any thoughts?

It seems that this debate is ultimately, user dependant. You'd have to try each separately at a respectable dosage for 6-8 weeks to gauge for yourself.

**power10er** · 03-19-2009, 10:55 AM

You think EQ is just weak overall or the dosage I have is too weak? I can sub decca?

I use the arimidex mostly for my own peace of mind that I am at least making attempt to help with the sides. To be honest I am not certain if it helped or if I just am not one to be very succeptable to the sides?? Also I think it helps somewhat with the water retention and has a hardening effect also??

**power10er** · 03-19-2009, 10:56 AM

Originally Posted by Lean1038

Regardless of AAS experience, the addition of Trenbolone will significantly hinder your capacity for this "Cardio heavy" gameplan.

Test/EQ/Var or Winny would be great for endurance and your goals.

I wont be doing the heavy cardio during my cycle. That will be before my cycle to get my BF and endurance back to where it was before surgery.

**Mammon** · 03-19-2009, 10:57 AM

Originally Posted by power10er

Weeks 1-12
Test E - 500mg/wk
Eq - 400mg/wk
Arimidex - .5mg/day

Weeks 5-12
Winstrol - 50mg/day (may sub var for winstrol?)

6 Weeks PCT:
Arimidex - 20mg/day (weeks 1-3)
Nolvadex - 20mg/day
HCG - 500iu/day

this is the way id run this stuff..

eq 1-12
test e 1-13
winny 10-15

jump right on pct..
i run hcg through the cycle but you could run it the last few weeks but id stop before you start any pct meds.

pct nlovadex and clomid.

have no issues with running the adex through the cycle.. i use .25 ed

**Mammon** · 03-19-2009, 10:59 AM

with the tren e in run

tren e 1-10
test e 1-12
winny 9-14

**power10er** · 03-19-2009, 11:02 AM

Originally Posted by Mammon

this is the way id run this stuff..

eq 1-12
test e 1-13
winny 10-15

jump right on pct..
i run hcg through the cycle but you could run it the last few weeks but id stop before you start any pct meds.

pct nlovadex and clomid.

have no issues with running the adex through the cycle.. i use .25 ed

So you suggest I do not run the HCG with my PCT? That is news to me. Why?

**power10er** · 03-19-2009, 11:28 AM

One other quick question:
Should I decrease my dosages and extend the cycle? I am not very interested in putting on massive contest muscle and size. I am more interested in moderate lean muscle and cutting.

**Immortal Soldier** · 03-19-2009, 11:34 AM

Add clomid to your pct

100/50/50/50

**power10er** · 03-19-2009, 11:38 AM

What would be your injection schedule for this:

12 weeks
Test E - 500mg/wk
Eq - 400mg/wk

**Mammon** · 03-19-2009, 11:50 AM

Originally Posted by power10er

So you suggest I do not run the HCG with my PCT? That is news to me. Why?

by using HCG during PCT you are mimicking LH to stimulate testosterone levels . this also sends a signal to the body that you have enough LH to stimulate testosterone production. So now you body thinks it's producing enough LH. thus hindering recovery.. jmo

**Mammon** · 03-19-2009, 11:52 AM

Originally Posted by power10er

What would be your injection schedule for this:

12 weeks
Test E - 500mg/wk
Eq - 400mg/wk

200mg eq / 250mg test e twice a week.. say monday and thursday

**power10er** · 03-19-2009, 04:40 PM

Originally Posted by Mammon

by using HCG during PCT you are mimicking LH to stimulate testosterone levels. this also sends a signal to the body that you have enough LH to stimulate testosterone production. So now you body thinks it's producing enough LH. thus hindering recovery.. jmo

Makes sense. Thanks.

**Ashop** · 03-19-2009, 07:50 PM

Originally Posted by power10er

I am interested in adding Tren E to my cycle but I have found several conflicting dosing ideas. Below is my 12 wk cycle plan. Any suggestions and advice on adding Tren E and the dosage would be appreciated.

Weeks 1-12
Test E - 500mg/wk
Eq - 400mg/wk
Arimidex - .5mg/day

Weeks 5-12
Winstrol - 50mg/day (may sub var for winstrol?)

6 Weeks PCT:
Arimidex - 20mg/day (weeks 1-3)
Nolvadex - 20mg/day
HCG - 500iu/day

somewhere between 300-500mg per wk. spit in 2xper wk injects.

**bene7422** · 03-19-2009, 10:06 PM

Originally Posted by Mammon

by using HCG during PCT you are mimicking LH to stimulate testosterone levels. this also sends a signal to the body that you have enough LH to stimulate testosterone production. So now you body thinks it's producing enough LH. thus hindering recovery.. jmo

EXACTLY......I'm glad somebody else realizes this.your body won't start producing it's natural testosterone until the hcg has cleared your system which is 2 weeks,therfore starting pct 2 weeks after last shot of hcg will allow you to get the benefit from the whole length of your pct.