dbol when to take?

[fresh31]

Hey I'm new around here i'm currently taking dbol and test, my brother was saying it might be a good idea for us instead of taking the 40mg everyday to only take 40 on days we lift and 20 on our off days, is that a good idea? or just stick to the 40 a day.

[Mammon]

no its not a good idea.. you want to keep the dose constant..

how about anti-e's and pct.. you have that covered?

[T-MOS]

Welcome to AR

Stick to the 40 to keep blood levels stable and break the dose up during the day

Tell us more about you and the cycle

How old are you and your brother?

How much test are you running and what kind and for how long??

What do you have on hand for your PCT? (PLEASE tell me you know what that is and that you have it?)

age
height
weight
bodyfat %
diet
training
GOALS for this cycle
PCT knowledge

[Immortal Soldier]

Wow...this thread won't end up good.

"Me and my brother..."

[fresh31]

Thanks for the welcome, that's what i was thinking but just wanted to double check.
This is my first cycle so I went relatively light 300mg test cypionate a week 40mg dbol a day. Been lifting for 5 years, was at 196 6% body fat for 2 years then I tried to dirty bulk which didnt work i actually dropped weight. For pct i have nolvadex and clen(already have it) i have a pretty good diet. my brothers 29 and on his fourth cycle but so far he's seen more results because he's finally got his diet and his lifting in check(my area of expertise)
age 20
height 5'6
weight 202 (started at 189)
bodyfat % 11%

[Immortal Soldier]

Thanks for the welcome, that's what i was thinking but just wanted to double check.
This is my first cycle so I went relatively light 300mg test cypionate a week 40mg dbol a day. Been lifting for 5 years, was at 196 6% body fat for 2 years then I tried to dirty bulk which didnt work i actually dropped weight. For pct i have nolvadex and clen(already have it) i have a pretty good diet. my brothers 29 and on his fourth cycle but so far he's seen more results because he's finally got his diet and his lifting in check(my area of expertise)
age 20
height 5'6
weight 202 (started at 189)
bodyfat % 11%

5'6 202lbs at 11% bf?

Can I get pictures?

[fresh31]

sure(sorry about the noobie question how do i post em up) a lot of my weight is in my lower body. Been playing football all my life lol (and concentrated mostly on my legs before so my arms are a little lacking for my weight)

[Immortal Soldier]

sure(sorry about the noobie question how do i post em up) a lot of my weight is in my lower body.

Click the little picture of a mountain when your posting then copy and paste the link

[fresh31]

took that pic after eating dinner about a week ago weight was 197 and completely at rest was on one of the off days, but like i said a lot of my weight is in my legs

edit:thats the latest picture i have, don't got my cam with me atm

[Immortal Soldier]

Alright thanks for the pic, my question is why would your brother put steroids on you at such a young age?

Steroids are recommended at 20 years old, but I can see why people start that young.

As for the answer to your orginially question keep the dbol at 40mgs for stable blood levels, and as you know your running a lower amount of test (most run at 500mgs), but if you get results than hey even better.

[fresh31]

yeah so far so good in terms of the cycle. He didn't actually have a part in my decision, I based it off of whether or not I would be able to reach my goals in a reasonable amount of time naturally, or if I would be better off with a little help.
I've gained an inch in my arms and upped 13 lbs so far.

[fresh31]

Thanks guys for answering my question so quickly.

[Immortal Soldier]

yeah so far so good in terms of the cycle. He didn't actually have a part in my decision, I based it off of whether or not I would be able to reach my goals in a reasonable amount of time naturally, or if I would be better off with a little help.
I've gained an inch in my arms and upped 13 lbs so far.

What are you're goals? aka Why are you taking steroids?

[Mammon]

id run some clomid with that nolvadex for pct

[fresh31]

id run some clomid with that nolvadex for pct

Been looking into it just haven't really convinced myself whether or not I need it, I'm starting week 4 of 10 on Sunday so I have plenty of time considering my source has plenty of clomid on hand.
If you don't mind me asking why should I add clomid as well?

[Phate]

Been looking into it just haven't really convinced myself whether or not I need it, I'm starting week 4 of 10 on Sunday so I have plenty of time considering my source has plenty of clomid on hand.
If you don't mind me asking why should I add clomid as well?

not good bro, orals are harsh on your liver and 10 weeks at that dose could do serious damage to your liver(think about drinking a fifth of alcohol everyday for 10 weeks, that's not an accurate model but will get you an idea)

max is normally around 6 weeks

read this thread on pct
http://forums.steroid.com/showthread.php?t=94626

[fresh31]

edit for double post...

[fresh31]

only running dbol for 4 weeks. and i'm also taking some milk thistle to help the liver out a bit

[Phate]

only running dbol for 4 weeks. and i'm also taking some milk thistle to help the liver out a bit

my bad, didn't read that you were on test as well, good choice for not taking an oral only cycle

get some liv52, milk thistle hasn't been proven to help the liver at all

[fresh31]

my bad, didn't read that you were on test as well, good choice for not taking an oral only cycle

get some liv52, milk thistle hasn't been proven to help the liver at all

It's cool, I'll look into the liv52 in case I decide to do another cycle.
Any advice as to why take clomid aswell as nolvadex?

[subaruwrx04]

Clomid is way better. You want your balls back? If so take the clomid..

[Immortal Soldier]

Clomid is way better. You want your balls back? If so take the clomid..

Nolva is better at mg per mg basis, the combination of Clomid and Nolva on is used to bring the the HPTA back as fast as possible.

Alot of vets on here will tell you how much they like Nolva more than clomid.

[fresh31]

Clomid is way better. You want your balls back? If so take the clomid..

funny thing you mention that lol, I have pretty big balls normally but now on the cycle they've shrunk a little down to what most people would consider normal size i actually like em lol doesn't get in the way as much
But yeah all i've read is that nolva is much better then clomid.

[domeyeahaigh]

Agreed IMO you do not need the clomid at all. Throw in some aromasin with the nolvadex and run it as long and at same dose you run the nolva (whatever that dose may be for you) ...that should be good enough...read up on AI's if you have not.

sounds like you have researched quite a bit and know what you are up, i give you props for bein 5'6 and 200 lbs..thats like franco colombu ha.

[Mammon]

between nolvadex and clomid.. imo clomid is far superior when it comes to recovery of HPTA

[fresh31]

I weigh more then he did but that guy is the man huge for his weight and strong as hell! I wonder what juice he took lol

[fresh31]

I think i'll just be adding it on, can't pct too much right?? lol