need help!!

**dazma190** · 03-21-2009, 04:49 PM

rite lads need help here.

Got D Bol and am gonna take 15/20mg a day for 6-8 weeks breaking it down over the days. Although am unaware on wot else to take with this. I have my my cycle worked out in that but when a read around other ppl are taking it with Nolvadex etc, this is were am lost any one that can help please email me [email protected] with wot to take and why and what to take after my D Bol cycle to insure a keep the size and gain.

**Matt** · 03-21-2009, 04:52 PM

Oh boy...

**breakbones** · 03-21-2009, 04:52 PM

Stats?

**dazma190** · 03-21-2009, 04:57 PM

rite so no longer than 6 weeks, k. what bout the dosage 15/20mg??

**Big** · 03-21-2009, 04:58 PM

age?
height?
weight?
body fat%?
years training?
entire cycle?
pct?

**Big** · 03-21-2009, 04:58 PM

Originally Posted by shabakat90

run sum test maybe with dbol to solidify gains. u shud in most cases not take dbol longer than 6 wks coz of liver toxicity

let's find out a bit about the poster before we throw advice out there please.

**Hazard** · 03-21-2009, 05:00 PM

Do some research man...... get some test...... read about PCT......

If your willing to supress your hpta...... you ought to be willing enough to do the reasearch on how to bring it back LOL

~Haz~

**stpete** · 03-21-2009, 05:01 PM

Why would anyone email you? There's more info here than anywhere else so i suggest you just navigate yourself through this site and start reading. There's also a search function you can employ. Good luck and welcome to the forum.

**Big** · 03-21-2009, 05:01 PM

Originally Posted by shabakat90

mad matt if u got sumthing gud to say say it or keep it shut

dude I just realized you're 17, you aren't even old enough to be a member here. stop advising people now, I'm about to remove all your posts anyway.

**Big** · 03-21-2009, 05:09 PM

Originally Posted by shabakat90

y wats wrong with my age am i giving him wrong info or rite

you aren't old enough to be a member here and your posts indicate your lack of experience. please just stop posting now, you're just giving us more posts to delete, by tomorrow no one will know you were ever here anyway. just be quiet and read if you wish, we don't need or want your input here.

**canadian meat** · 03-21-2009, 05:11 PM

Originally Posted by shabakat90

wat your stats dazma

Whats the difference youll be banned within 24 hours anyway. You must have forgot to read the you have to be 18 to join this forum rule.

**canadian meat** · 03-21-2009, 05:12 PM

Beat me to it big

**Big** · 03-21-2009, 05:12 PM

Originally Posted by canadian meat

Whats the difference youll be banned within 24 hours anyway. You must have forgot to read the you have to be 18 to join this forum rule.

I've got a pretty strong feeling that even if he was over 18 he wouldn't last a week here.

**dazma190** · 03-21-2009, 05:14 PM

age 24, height 5ft 11, been training since 20 but started taking it more serious since 22, so say 2 years. weight 162 pounds.

**Mammon** · 03-21-2009, 05:17 PM

your knowledge is lacking

**Hazard** · 03-21-2009, 05:27 PM

Originally Posted by dazma190

age 24, height 5ft 11, been training since 20 but started taking it more serious since 22, so say 2 years. weight 162 pounds.

You definately have plenty of room to grow naturally man..... whats your diet look like?

~Haz~

**Immortal Soldier** · 03-21-2009, 05:28 PM

Originally Posted by shabakat90

how is da reason im askin

Because your knowledge on the subject is low, you type like a retard, you think that test needs to be taken with dbol to "soldify gains" when in reality test needs to be taken with dbol because dbol only cycles produce very little to no gains and they shut down the body hard so you need test to prevent limp dick among other problems, furthermore you are 17 and most likely taking anabolic steroids so I cannot even begin to fathom how stupid that is.

Does that help or do I need to draw you a picture?

**luxifer93** · 03-21-2009, 05:31 PM

Originally Posted by shabakat90

how is da reason im askin

Douche

**Hazard** · 03-21-2009, 05:32 PM

Originally Posted by Immortal Soldier

Does that help or do I need to draw you a picture?

I motion for the picture......

- I have all nite.....

~Haz~

**luxifer93** · 03-21-2009, 05:36 PM

Originally Posted by dazma190

age 24, height 5ft 11, been training since 20 but started taking it more serious since 22, so say 2 years. weight 162 pounds.

You should be able to gain at least 20 more pounds at your height and age before you take anything.

**Immortal Soldier** · 03-21-2009, 05:40 PM

Originally Posted by shabakat90

no mate research dbol alone at the dose he is taking will not shut u down u thick son of a bitch and u think u know it all fuk how old r u

Show me research that says Dbol only at 15-20mg won't shut you down, at around 10mg daily the HPTA becomes restricted.

Did I say I know it all? No

My age has nothing to do with it, by I assure you I am older than you.

**Immortal Soldier** · 03-21-2009, 05:47 PM

Originally Posted by shabakat90

go on immortal soldier get bk to me or r u researching on google fukin spas

Actually I did check research journals for the effects on the HPTA, if someone can show me that dbol at 20mg won't shut you down by week 6 then I will say your right.

The mian point is not weather or not the HPTA will shutdown at that dosage (which I believe it would in the long run when running for 6 weeks but at the least the HPTA will be restricted) that dosage with no testosterone is not going to produce stable gains. There will be alot of water retention and minimal gains, which is why test is necessary to keep the water/bloat down and produce stable gains that can be kept.

***FireGuy*** · 03-21-2009, 05:49 PM

Originally Posted by Immortal Soldier

Actually I did check research journals for the effects on the HPTA, if someone can show me that dbol at 20mg won't shut you down by week 6 then I will say your right.

The mian point is not weather or not the HPTA will shutdown at that dosage (which I believe it would in the long run when running for 6 weeks but at the least the HPTA will be restricted) that dosage with no testosterone is not going to produce stable gains. There will be alot of water retention and minimal gains, which is why test is necessary to keep the water/bloat down and produce stable gains that can be kept.

Immortal...Why are you engaging in a battle of wits with an unarmed opponent?

**Immortal Soldier** · 03-21-2009, 05:50 PM

Originally Posted by shabakat90

no it says after 2 to 3 wks it is restricted by 30 percent it does not shut u down on the guys proposed cycle

Are we talking about at 20mg a day or 10mg?

Either way by theory by week 4-5 should drop even further to 50-60%. And the user wants to run it for 6-8 week alone.

If you paid me to run that cycle I wouldn't, that cycle is good for 3 things:

1) Bringing down your HPTA
2) Wasting money
3) Losing all the minimal gains you made during the PCT (see water retention)

**Mammon** · 03-21-2009, 05:51 PM

Originally Posted by FireGuy1

Immortal...Why are you engaging in a battle of wits with an unarmed opponent?

^^^^^^ was just thinking the same thing..

**Immortal Soldier** · 03-21-2009, 05:52 PM

Originally Posted by shabakat90

exactly bitch i got u how long is dis guys proposed cycle and anyway u shud neva get to wk 6 on dbol coz of liver toxicity in your face bitch and u call me inexperienced im 17 and i ripped u bitch

How did you rip me?

If you what the cycle you say you will:

1) make no stable gains
2) lose money
3) severely restrict your HPTA

That's right you "ripped me bro"

***FireGuy*** · 03-21-2009, 05:56 PM

Maybe for Christmas mom and dad can buy you a new keyboard, one where all the letters work.

**luxifer93** · 03-21-2009, 06:00 PM

Thought This Was Fitting

**luxifer93** · 03-21-2009, 06:01 PM

**Mammon** · 03-21-2009, 06:01 PM

**luxifer93** · 03-21-2009, 06:02 PM

**BritishColumbian** · 03-21-2009, 06:03 PM

Originally Posted by FireGuy1

Maybe for Christmas mom and dad can buy you a new keyboard, one where all the letters work.

LMFAO. I was thinking the same thing.

**luxifer93** · 03-21-2009, 06:06 PM

Originally Posted by shabakat90

columbian hu u a ****in emigrant fuk off bk to your own country

Is this really Madd?

**Matt** · 03-21-2009, 06:07 PM

Just a quick message to the op, when this retard is banned we shall give you all the help you need lol...

**Matt** · 03-21-2009, 06:09 PM

Originally Posted by luxifer93

Is this really Madd?

No i would never say such things to BC as he is a well respected member...

***D7M*** · 03-21-2009, 06:12 PM

*goes to refill his popcorn*

**luxifer93** · 03-21-2009, 06:12 PM

Originally Posted by MAD MATT

No i would never say such things to BC as he is a well respected member...

Just wondering, you were missing for a bit

**BritishColumbian** · 03-21-2009, 06:18 PM

Originally Posted by MAD MATT

No i would never say such things to BC as he is a well respected member...

**luxifer93** · 03-21-2009, 06:21 PM

Originally Posted by derek7m

*goes to refill his popcorn*

**dazma190** · 03-22-2009, 10:32 AM

eat bout 4-5 times a day. Plenty of carbs and protein. snacking in between aswell, also taking creatine drink 4 times a day for the loading period the now.

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